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[4] A Required Updated clarification regarding the Book Rifqan Ahlus Sunnah Bi-Ahlis Sunnah due to the renewed fraudulent claims and stances of the Hizbiyyoon and Ma’mayyi’oon

In The Name of Allaah, The Most Merciful, The Bestower of Mercy

All praise is due to Allaah. Indeed the Scholars of Ahlus Sunnah clarify the truth and direct the Ummah towards clear-sightedness where it is needed. The information in this article will be updated based on a precise and beneficial article written by our elder brothers at Maktabah Salafiyyah in 2003.

The book of Shaykh Abdul-Muhsin al-Abbaad (may Allaah preserve him), if we isolate it from the context surrounding it, is a very good book and from which all Salafees who are clear in their manhaj will find great benefit – especially in knowing how to deal with each other. This applies to the true adherents of the Salafi Maanhaj, and does not include the false claimants like the staunch followers of Al-Maghraawee, Al-Ma’ribee, Al-Halabi and other people of bidah, Tamyi and hizbiyyah.

There are a few issues in the book which have been replied to by some of the people of knowledge such as the generalisations about jarh, hajr, issues of cooperation with the opposers and hizbiyyeen that have been made in that book, and also the issues of the major scholars who passed away and whether they would refute the opposer or not. Those issues were left general by the Shaykh because he saw Al-Ma’ribee to be within Ahl us Sunnah and this fitnah to be “between” Ahl us-Sunnah when the reality is otherwise, as at least 30 other Scholars have explained with detailed evidences that Al-Maribi is an Ikhwaanee fitnah imported from outside. And because this is how the Shaykh saw the matter the way he did, he was addressing those whom he considered Salafees in his view, all within Ahl us-Sunnah. But this is a matter proven incorrect by the evidence from other scholars, because the scholars have established manifest evidences to show the deviations of Al-Ma’ribee, Al-Halabi and Al-Maghraaw.

However, some of the people of Tamyee and bidah still desire to spread tribulations by way of the Shaykh’s book, due to the surrounding context in which it was written, and for which Shaykh Ahmad an-Najmee stated that he erred in this particular action of his in writing this book. Otherwise, it is known that Shaykh Abdul-Muhsin himself has warned and refuted those whom he considered to be upon corrupt methodologies, such as Safar, Salman and Adnaan Ar’oor and Hasan al-Maalikee.

And therefore in this manner, we have a good suspicion of the Shaykh in what he has done, whilst being wary of the mistake. And by thinking in this way, we have freed ourselves of any deceit and misrepresentation of the true and real situation. This does not apply to the Innovators, Hizbiyyeen and Mu’mayyi-een who are still using this book because their activities and fervour, and zeal at this moment -itself- is based upon deceit and misrepresentation of the true realities, as they are. The fraud in their actions is apparent to every sensible and honest person.

The way Salafees should view this book and those who spread it is as follows:

[1] The book contained excellent admonitions in general about certain affairs and characteristics and lays down excellent guidelines for dealings between the clear Salafees. The Shaykh brought together tremendous statements from the Book of Allaah, the Messenger (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) and the Salaf.

[2] The book discussed certain topics such as hajr, tabdee’, jarh, ta’aawun, akhtaa (errors) all of which were left general and ambiguous, with no tafseel and were tied in reality to the Shaykh’s viewpoint on the fitnah of al-Ma’ribee. These issues were raised by the Shaykh in the context of the fitnah of al-Ma’ribee in which he holds an erroneous viewpoint. The Shaykh is rewarded nevertheless, but we do not take from the errors of the scholars no matter how great their rank. This is from the distinguishing features of the usool of the Salafi manhaj. The truth is with around 30 other Shaykhs from Ahl us-Sunnah. Included within them are three senior Shaykhs who are older than Shaykh Abdul-Mushin, and some of whom are more knowledgeable of the ways of the Hizbees and Innovators than the Shaykh. Every scholar has his own speciality and excellences in certain areas, and we have to be mature in this regard, and not be like the children who just want to strike this scholar against that with slogans such as “he is older”, “he has more knowledge” and so on, which don’t really address the actual underlying reasons that explain why  a different view is held in the first place, and which don’t really get to the crux of the matter which is the overwhelming established evidence against al-Ma’ribee. This immaturity is found amongst the followers of Al-Ma’ribee, Al-Halabi, and recently Saalim At-Taweel, Abdul Maalik Ar-Ramadaani and others have behaved in this manner. So there are those upon this immaturity!

And note also the difference between the Salafees who when they say they do not take the erroneous ijtihaads of Scholars, are able to demonstrate that it is erroneous by bringing tangible hard evidence to show that it is to be considered and erroneous ijtihaad. This is a universe apart from the cheap, hollow slogans of the followers of desires who say “you make taqleed of Shaykh Rabee” etc. all of which is totally baseless and is in reality a slogan fabricated to aid falsehood and confuse the people. Shaikh Khaalid Abdur-Rahmaan Al-Misri (may Allaah preserve him) said that Al-Allaamah Rabee Bin Haadi Al-Madkhali (may Allaah preserve him) said:

لا نقول

أغمضوا أعينكم واركضوا وراءنا بل نقول

ادرسوا بفهمٍ وعقلٍ ووعي

وقارنوا بصدق وإخلاص

We do not say, ”Close your eyes and gallop behind us, rather we say, study with understanding, sound reasoning and attentiveness, and together with truthfulness and sincerity.” http://www.sahab.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=149391

 

So note the clear difference between when the Salafees do not take the position held by Shaykh Abdul-Muhsin (because of absence of evidence to reject the Jarh Mufassar) and between the Innovators who claim Shaykh Rabee has erred and that taqleed is not to be made of him (which is a trick to reject the actual evidence that is so firmly established).

So these generalisations in the Book Rifqan Ahlus Sunnah Bi-Ahlis Sunnah can be taken in two different ways:

Firstly:

(a) Benefit can be derived for them by the Salafees who should realise the danger of falling into these matters towards their Salafee brothers who make genuine mistakes and do not persist upon them. So the general idea of warning from hasty tabdee’, hajr and so on is appropriate here, as it relates to Salafees who are upon a clear aqeedah, a clear manhaj, a clear dawah and hold clear Salafee positions and build their loyalties around these affairs. So if they err and make genuine mistakes from which they are quick to recant, then the above matters should be avoided. Again this does not include the Innovators, Hizbees and Mu’mayyi’oon, who have been warned against for their corrupt methodologies and this includes Al-Ma’ribee, Al-Halabi, Al-Maghraawi and those who obstinately defend their falsehood and revile those scholars who exposed them. These people of Tamyee, as Shaikh Abdullaah Al-Bukhaari stated, are from the most harmful of people against the Salafi Dawah. [See here, Shaikh Abdullaah’s speech: http://safeshare.tv/w/XIQbYMHYic ]. Pockets of these types of people are found in every land.

(b) Clarification should be made upon these generalisations so that the Innovators and Ahl ul-Ahwaa cannot cause confusion amongst the Salafees, and this is what has been done by Ahmad An-Najmi (rahimahullaah). These generalisations are still been utilised by all the Hizbiyyeen in all their forms, which is why you see that there is a great deal of nashaat (fervor, zeal) on behalf of certain factions to spread and distribute this book.This book is once again being utilized- in a deceitful manner- by those those obstinate followers of Al-Maribi, Al-Halabi, Al-Maghraawi, Ihyaa Turaath etc

 

Secondly:

If the Salafees want to benefit from the contents of this book to the degree that it can be benefited from, and that if they do read it, they must refer to the replies written upon this book that clarify the generalisations concerning hajr, ta’aawun, jarh, radd ‘alal mukhaalif, and whether Ibn Baz and Ibn Uthaymeen did or did not refute the opposers in their time, such as Abdur-Rahmaan Abdul-Khaaliq, Safar and Salmaan, and Adnaan Ar’oor and so on. And this is a blessing upon every Salafee, who due to his unique and distinct manhaj, benefits from the truth whoever it comes from in all circumstances, from the old or the young, the male or the female, as opposed to the Hizbiyyeen who because of their desires and seeking of crooked ways, are only led further astray when matters like these descend upon them, and thus you see them that when the Salafees are actively involved in clarifying the manhaj these people keep quiet and do not support them (resounding with slogans of harshness, and severity etc.) but as soon as some leeway is given to all the people of Hizbiyyah on account of erroneous ijtihaads made by some from Ahl us-Sunnah, you see these very same people coming out of the woodwork and very eager to spread and propagate doubts.

Inshaa’Allaah, we will follow up this article with some sections of Shaikh Ahmad’s (rahimahullaah) clarifications on the Book Rifqan Ahlus Sunnah Bi-Ahlis Sunnah. We ask Allaah for Ikhlaas, Sidq, Thabaat and Husnul Khaatimah. Aameen.

[3] Rifqan Ahlus Sunnah Bi-Ahlis Sunnah- [Any Response from the hizbiyyoon about this view of Al-Maribi

Al-Allaamah Ahmad Bin Yahyah An-Najmi (rahimahullaah) stated that when Abul Hasan Al-Maribi was asked whether Ikhwaan al Muslimeen are from Ahlus Sunnah, he replied: ‘Yes’. [1]

 

 

Al-Allaamah Abdul Muhsin Al-Abbaad (may Allaah preserve him) said:

If you are with them (i.e. Ikhwaan) – even if you are from the filthiest of people and even if you are from the raafidah, you are still their brother and companion. And for this reason from their methodology is that they gather every Tom, Dick and Harry, even the Raafidiy who hates and detests the Sahaabah…[2]

 

Al-Allaamah Saaleh Al-Fawzaan (may Allaah preserve him) said:

All praise is due to Allaah, and salaat and salaam upon our Prophet Muhammad, his family and his companions.

My view with regards to the Muslim Brotherhood is that they are partisans (Hizbiyyoon) who covet the attainment of ruler ship; and that they do not give concern to calling to the correcting of the creed (Aqeedah).

And they do not distinguish between their followers, between the Sunni (person upon the Sunnah) and the bid’ee (person upon innovation).

As for the speech (found) in an audio recording that has come from me, then it is a slip of the tongue and does not change my stance in the slightest. [3]

Written by Saalih Ibn Al-Fawzaan Al-Fawzaan

Translated by: Hasan Somali

The Arabic Text

” الحمد لله رب العالمين والصلاة والسلام

على نبينا محمد وعلى آله وصحبه

رأيي في الإخوان المسلمين أنهم حزبيون يريدون التوصل إلى الحكم ولا يهتمون بالدعوة إلى تصحيح العقيدة ولا يفرقون في أتباعهم بين السني والبدعي .

وما جاء في الكلام الشفهي المسجل عني فهو سبق لسان لا يغير من رأيي فيهم شيئا”.

كتبه

صالح بن فوزان الفوزان

26/5/1433هـ.

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[1] Al-Fataawa Al-Jaleelah. Pages 220-225

[2] Al-Fataawaa Al-Muhimmah Fee Tabseeril Ummah: pages 177-179;

[3] Source: http://www.albaidha.net/vb/showthread.php?t=38314

 

[2] Shaikh Rabee Unveiled the Falsehood of The Fraudulent Claimants to Salafiyyah and Proponents of Tamyee-Those attempting (once again) to Utilise ‘Rifqan Ahlus Sunnah Bi-Ahlis Sunnah’ to defend Mubtadia

In The Name of Allaah, The Most Merciful, The Bestower of Mercy

Question: O Shaykh, there is a matter, some papers that have spread – and they are well known to you – “Rifqan Ahl us-Sunnah Bi Ahl is-Sunnah”, and some of the people of fitnah unleash them (upon the people) and spread them free (of charge), and the people of evil use them (for their purposes). So is there any advice to all parties concerned about what relates to these papers, may Allaah protect you?

Reply:

Shaykh Rabee: Bismillaah, all praise is due to Allaah and Salaat and Salaam be upon Allaah’s Messenger, upon his family and his companions and whoever followed his guidance.

To proceed:

Certainly, men do err, and they can be correct, regardless of what level of knowledge and excellence they reach, and this particular risaalah, then I consider it to be naseehah, fundamentally, even if there are some observations upon it. However, the faction that has rejoiced with it, in reality, they are the ones who are convicted (by it), and they are the oppressive, and the transgressing (faction), and the (faction) originating the tribulations and persisting upon them.

And the other faction – those against whom these papers they are distributing – they are the ones who are wronged, and transgressed against, however those other people are upon the way of the scheming Hizbiyyeen, they turn the affairs around, and they put the objections that are upon them (in reality) upon others.

The reality is that Shaykh al-Abbaad wants to extinguish this fitnah; however they kindled it anew by this behaviour of theirs. It was desirable that they benefit from his observations which are not to be set except upon their heads (i.e. which apply to them), and the objections (against matters) that did not arise except from them, and amongst them is revilement upon the scholars, and trying to make them fall (i.e. to drop them, destroy them), and every time a scholar spoke the truth, by which he would convict oppression and falsehood, they earnestly tried to make him fall, so this is their crime.

As for the Salafees, then they are by Allaah, the protectors and the defenders of the scholars, and their honours. And these books of their, and by the praise of Allaah, are a witness to that, and their cassettes (likewise) and also their positions (that they hold) also are a witness to that. [So this khutbah alone] in which it is mentioned that the youth revile the scholars, the Salafees, their young and their old are free from it, like the freedom of the wolf from the blood of the son of Ya’qoob.

They are the revilers of the scholars, they are the transgressors against the scholars, they are the transgressors against Ahl us-Sunnah, they are the ones who are lied upon, and that which Shaykh al-Abbaad said, is only a small part of a great deal more, so this mere indication (by the Shaykh) should have been sufficient for them, this indication should have been sufficient for them.

The Shaykh al-Abbaad does not believe about Rabee and whoever is with him that they revile the scholars, neither the old amongst them or the young, he does not believe that about them, but – Allaah knows best – this is just an indication by him to those oppressive, perishing hizbiyyeen, an indication to them that they benefit.

Make the people understand that they are the ones who revile the scholars, and they are the ones who began with oppression. And most of the people with them know these realities, so increase them in insight by this, and nullify their scheme and their plot, because this is from the plots of the Hizbiyyeen. And Shaykh Ibn Baaz (rahimahullaah) issued a naseehah to the youth, a general advice, so the hizbiyyoon rushed to explain it upon other than what Shaykh Ibn Baaz  (rahimahullaah) intended. Then a decisive blow was directed at them and the suspicions against the people of Madinah (i.e. the scholars such as Shaykh Rabee) were negated, and he praised them and extolled them and he also reviled those oppressive hizbiyyeen who had turned the truth into falsehood and falsehood into truth. He praised the people of Madinah with goodness, then he said about those people that they explained his bayaan with lies, treachery, confusion and deception, he said, “As for the du’aat of baatil, and those who stir the murky waters, they are the ones who spread confusion upon the people, and say that the intent by the speech was this and that…”

And now I request from Shaykh al-Abbaad that he strikes those people with a strike similar to that made by Shaykh Ibn Baaz, and that he explains that the people of Madinah that they are Ahl us-Sunnah, and likewise their brothers in Yemen. And as for those, that they are du’aat of baatil, and those who stir the murky waters, and by Allaah, they have stirred the murky waters after their lengthy extended da’wah to baatil, the da’wah that was founded upon and also founds baatil (itself), the one that was raised upon false principles the aim of which was to destroy the Salafee manhaj and to harm its people..

And I remind al-Abbaad that those are the ones who began with a war and with tribulations, and they began with lies, oppression and transgression, and they did not cease after that. Then they are only directing these vile actions (once more) by distributing this book, as if it is for them, and as if al-Abbaad did not write this book except to aid them, and they forget what they committed of humiliating (deeds) and oppression and transgression… may Allaah bless you.

So explain to the people that this book in its reality is against them, if Allaah wills, irrespective of whether Shaykh al-Abbaad actually intended this or not, and I hope that he did intend this, that it is against them because they are the ones who transgress against the foundations of the Salafee manhaj, and upon its Shaykhs. They are the ones who came with destructive, corrupt, stagnant principles in order to shelter the Ahl ul-Bida’ wad-Dalaal, and they committed whatever they committed of things that I and others have explained.

And this short glance (at this matter) should be sufficient, so distribute it so that the people may gain insight, and corroborate it by looking at what you find in it of revilements which do not apply except to them, such as al-jarh wat-ta’deel with baatil, and revilement upon the scholars, and with that which is worse than tabdee such as accusing the people of “ghuthaa’iyyah” and that they are “the lowliest of people”, and that they are “shrimps (i.e. low, insignificant people)” and the essence of what they say in these (Internet) sites. Explain this matter to the people may Allaah bless you, Allaah will nullify their plot and their scheme, and distribute this cassette in every place, may Allaah grant you success in what He loves and is pleased with.

[Translated by Spubs on 14/7/2003]

To be continued….In-Shaa-Allaah

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Question:

ياشيخ سؤال هنا أمر أوراق انتشرت –وهي المشهورة المعروفة عندكم- رفقاً أهل السنة بأهل السنة

ويثيرها وينشرها بعض أهل الفتن وتوزع مجاناً ويستغلها أهل السوء

فهل من نصيحة لجميع الأطراف فيما يتعلق بهذه الورقة حفظكم الله

Answer:

بسم الله والحمد لله والصلاة والسلام على رسول الله وعلى آله وصحبه ومن اتبع هداه

ما بعد

فإن البشر يخطئون ويصيبون مهما بلغوا من العلم والفضل ، وإن هذه الرسالة أنا أعتبرها في الأصل نصيحة وإن كان عليها بعض الملاحظات ، لكن الطرف الذي فرح بها ووزعها في الحقيقة هو المدين وهو الظالم وهو المعتدي وهو البادئ بالفتن والمستمر فيها

والطرف الآخر -الذين يوزعون هذه الأوراق ضده – هم المظلومون والمعتدى عليهم

لكنّ هؤلاء على طريقة الحزبيين المكرة، يقلّبون الأمور ويجعلون ما عليهم من المآخذ يجعلونها على الآخرين

الحقيقة أن الشيخ العباد يريد أن يُطفئ الفتنة ولكنهم ألهبوها من جديد بهذا التصرف كان ينبغي أن يستفيدوا من ملاحظاته التي لا تنصب إلاّ على رؤوسهم ، والمآخذ التي لم تصدر إلا منهم، ومنها الطعن في العلماء ومحاولة إسقاطهم وكلما قال عالمٌ حقّاً ُيدين به ظلماً وباطلاً بادروا إلى إسقاطه ؛ فهذه جريمتهم

أما السلفيون فهم والله حماة وذابّون عن العلماء وأعراضهم

وهذه كتبهم وبحمدالله شاهدةٌ بذلك وأشرطتهم ومواقفهم شاهدةٌ بذلك[ فهذه الخبطة فقط] الذي ذكر فيه أنّ الشباب يطعنون في العلماء هذا السلفيون شيبهم وشبابهم برآء منها براءة الذئب من دم ابن يعقوب

هم الطاعنون في العلماء، هم المعتدون على العلماء، هم المعتدون على أهل السنة، هم المفترون عليهم

والذي قاله الشيخ العباد قليلٌ من كثير فكان تكفيهم هذه الإشارة كان تكفيهم هذه الإشارة

الشيخ العباد لايعتقد في ربيع ومن معه أنهم يطعنون في العلماء لا كباراً ولا صغاراً لا يعتقد فيهم وإنما والله أعلم هذه إشارة منه إلى هؤلاء الظلمة الحزبيين الهالكين

شارةً إليهم لكن لم يستفيدوا

أفهموا الناس أنهم هم الذين يطعنون في العلماء وأنهم هم الذين بدأوا بالظلم .. وأكثر الناس عندكم يعرفون هذه الحقائق فزيدوهم بصيرة بهذا، وأحبطوا كيدهم ومكرهم

فإن هذا من مكائد الحزبيين ؛ وقد أصدر الشيخ ابن باز رحمه الله نصيحة إلى الشباب نصيحة عامة فهبّ الحزبيون إلى تفسيرها بغير ما يريد الشيخ ابن باز رحمه الله فوجّه لهم ضربة قاصمة ونفى الظنون عن أهل المدينة ومدحهم وأثنى عليهم وطعن في هؤلاء الحزبيين الظالمين الذين يجعلون الحق باطلاً والباطل حقاً

أثنى على أهل المدينة خيراً ثم قال عن هؤلاء الذين فسروا بيانه بالكذب والغش واللبس والتلبيس قال

أما دعاة الباطل وأهل الصيد في الماء العكر فهم الذين يشوشون على الناس ويقولون المقصود بالكلام كذا وكذا

فأنا الآن أطلب من الشيخ العباد أن يضرب هؤلاء مثل ضربة الشيخ ابن باز يبين أنّ أهل المدينة هم أهل السنة وكذلك إخوانهم أهل اليمن

أما هؤلاء فهم دعاة الباطل وأهل الصيد في الماء العكر

فلقد والله اصطادوا في الماء العكر بعد دعوتهم الطويلة المديدة إلى الباطل الدعوة المؤصَّلة والمؤصِّلةِ للباطل التي قامت على أصول فاسدة تهدف إلى هدم المنهج السلفي ؛ وإلى إيذاء أهله

وأذكّر العباد بأن هؤلاء هم الذين ابتدؤوا بالحرب والفتن وبدؤوا بالكذب والظلم والطغيان ولم ينتهوا بعد

ثم إنهم يتوجون هذه الأعمال الرديئة بتوزيع هذا الكتاب كأنه لهم وكأن العباد ما كتبه إلا لنصرتهم، ونسوا ما ارتكبوه من الفضائح والظلم والإعتداء

بارك الله فيكم

فبينوا للناس أنّ هذا الكتاب في حقيقته ضدهم إن شاء الله سواء قصد هذا الشيخ العباد أو لم يقصد وأنا أرجوا أن يكون قاصداً ذلك

إنه ضدهم بأنهم هم المعتدون على أصول المنهج السلفي وعلى شيوخه

هم الذين جاءوا بالأصول الهدّامة الفاسدة الكاسدة للمحامات عن أهل البدع والضلال وارتكبوا ما ارتكبوه من أشياء قد بيّنتها وبينها غيري

وهذه اللفتة تكفي وانشروها ليتبصر الناس وأكدّوها بما تجدون فيه من المطاعن التي لا تنطبق إلاّ عليهم من الجرح والتعديل بالباطل ومن الطعن في العلماء ومما هو شرٌ من التبديع من رمي الناس بالغثائية وأنهم أراذل وأنهم أقزام وأنهم خلاصة مايقولونه في هذه المواقع وبينوا للناس هذا الأمر بارك الله فيكم يحبط الله كيدهم ومكرهم وانشروا هذا الشريط في كل مكان وفقكم الله لما يحبه ويرضاه

[1] Shaikh Ubaid Unveiled the Falsehood of The Fraudulent Claimants to Salafiyyah and Proponents of Tamyee- Those attempting (once again) to Utilise ‘Rifqan Ahlus Sunnah Bi-Ahlis Sunnah’ to defend Mubtadia

In The Name of Allaah, The Most Merciful, The Bestower of Mercy

This was a clarification by Shaykh Ubayd (may Allaah preserve him), which was a quick translation by the elder brothers and students at Salafipublications (may Allaah preserve them). You can access the audio directly from this link:

http://safeshare.tv/w/cOLObITEbR

 

Shaikh Ubaid stated:

I have not read the book of Shaykh Abdul-Muhsin.

I know from experience that Ahl ul-Ahwaa take whatever chance they can from some of the affairs that arise from some of Ahl us-Sunnah, then they twist it for their own benefits whereas it is not really of benefit to them.

Shaykh Abdul-Muhsin, according to the title that I have come to know, is actually advising Ahl us-Sunnah in relation to Ahl us-Sunnah. And this is a matter that is agreed upon by all of the Shaykhs that we have known, and we are upon this as well.

However we need to know who are Ahl us-Sunnah, not everyone who claims the Sunnah is actually from it.[note: such as the hizbees who are now using this book for their own agendas!]

Secondly, Shaykh Abdul-Muhsin and others, when he comes to know of a person of innovation he will show rejection upon him and his innovation [note: like he did with Safar and Salman, Ar’oor, Hasan Maalikee etc!]

Thirdly, this is a rule, the one who knows is a proof against the one who does not know, so those who spoke of Abul-Hasan spoke with evidences, proofs so clear, like the apparentness of the sun in the daytime, and they criticised his speech and actions, so those who made jarh upon him and established the evidences against him, then we have to take this from them otherwise we are people of desires. And that Scholar who has not seen what the others have seen, then we do not follow that Scholar who was ignorant of the condition of of the one who was disparaged.

Then the Shaykh gives some examples:

1. Example of Shaafi’ee’s ta’deel for Ibraaheem ibn Muhammad ibn Abee Yahyaa, but scholars made Jarh upon him and said he is not thiqah. So the tawtheeq of Shaafi’ee was not accepted and nor did this tawtheeq help the one who was declared thiqah by him [note: just like Shaykh Abdul-Muhsin’s speech for Abul-Hasan does not benefit him in anyway, for he remains a straying deceiving lying Ikhwaanee Innovator!].

  1. Example of Safar and Salman, when we (i.e. the Shaykhs of Madinah) would criticise them with proof, but Shaykh Ibn Baz and Shaykh Ibn uthaymeen and others from the Major Scholars did not say anything about them. But after 4 years, the declaration came from the Hay’ah convicting them (of errors) and advising that they be restrained.
    3. Example of Shaykh al-Albaanee used to praise Safar and Salman, give them tazkiyah and so on, but after 6 or 7 years, he spoke against them, and he admitted that “we had been hasty and the people of Madinah were more knowledgeable of the people”.

    Then the Shaykh said, “distribute this discussion”.

    Then after being asked about those who spread this book the Shaykh said, “This person is a person of fitnah, either a person of fitnah or one who does not know (the situation)…” Then the Shaykh added to this, “…especially when such a person spreads it amongst the general people (at large), the likes of me (i.e. the Shaykh) and you (i.e. students of knowledge), from those people who understand could read the book, but as for one who spreads it by the hundreds, to the general and specific people, in accordance with what I have said, then this is either one who is heedless (does not know) or is a person of fitnah (saahibu fitnah).”

[End of quote]

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To be continued In-Shaa-Allaah

 

I sit with Ahlus Sunnah and I sit with ahlul bidah!

قيل للإمام الأوزاعي إن رجلاً يقول:أنا أجالس أهل السنة وأجالس أهل البدع

فقال الأوزاعي:هذا رجل يريد أن يساوي بين الحق والباطل

الإبانة-2/456

It was said to Imaam Al-Awzaa’ee (rahimahullaah): Indeed a man says, ‘I sit with Ahlus Sunnah and I sit with ahlul bidah.’

So Al-Awzaa’ee said: This man wants to equate truth with falsehood.

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[Al-Ibaanah 2/456]

Keeping a distance from a Mubtadi even if he has knowledge of fiqh and hadeeth-[Shaikh Fawzaan(may Allaah preserve him)] clarifies

This questioner says:

 

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

If a student of knowledge utters innovation and calls to it, and he is one with Fiqh and (knowledge of) Hadeeth; does his speech of innovation necessitate an invalidation of his knowledge and his (knowledge) of hadeeth, and not to (benefit from) him unrestrictedly?

 

Answer:

Yes, he is not to be trusted; the one who is an Innovator is neither to be trusted nor his knowledge, nor (to have) a lackadaisical (stance) towards him. That is because if you (have) a lackadaisical (stance) towards him, the student will be influenced by his Shaikh-he will be influenced by his teacher. Therefore, it is obligatory to be distanced from the people of innovation, and the Salaf (pious predecessors) used to forbid (others) from sitting with the innovators, visiting and going to them; so that their evil is not spread to the one who sits with them and mixes with them.

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