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Greenlane’s Admin: Shaikh Uthaymeen and six other scholars unveil the deviations of Adnaan Ar’oor; why do you hide truth & aggrandize status of those who defend him?!

In The Name of Allaah, The Most Merciful, The Bestower of Mercy

Shaikh Uthaymeen refutes the deviations of Adnaan Ar’oor Al-Mubtadi

 http://ia600507.us.archive.org/12/items/qawidadnanaroor/01-Uthaymeen.mp3

 

 

 

Shaikh Ahmad An-Najmi refutes the deviations of Adnaan Ar’oor Al-Mubtadi

 

 

 

 

Shaikh Fawzaan (may Allaah preserve him) unveils the deviations of Adnaan Ar’oor Al-Mubtadi

 

 

 

 

 

Shaikh Gudiyaan (rahimahullaah) refutes the deviations of Adnaan Ar’oor Al-Mubtadi

 

 

 

 

Shaikh Zayd Bin Haadi (rahimahullaah) refutes the deviations of Adnaan Ar’oor Al-Mubtadi

 

 

 

 

 

Shaikh Ubayd Al-Jaabiri (may Allaah preserve him)

Shaikh Muhammad Bin Haadi (may Allaah preserve him)

Consequences of Argumentation – Shaykh Al-Uthaymeen

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

Shaykh Al-Uthaymeen – Rahimahullaah – said:

There isn’t a person (on the most part) who is prone to argumentation except that he becomes deprived from the blessing of knowledge. Because in general the one who argues desires by that to only support his own statement and by way of that becomes deprived from the blessing of knowledge.
As for the one who desires the truth, then indeed the truth is easy and attainable. It doesn’t require great debates, as it is clear.
Because of this you find that those people of innovation who debate in favour of their innovations, their fields of knowledge lack blessing, having no good to it. And you’ll find them arguing and debating and then arriving at nothing. They do not end up reaching the truth.
( تفسير سورة البقرة / ج2 / ص 444 )

[A] Some Destructive False Principles and Calamities of Abdul Maalik Ar-Ramadaani-An ally of Brixton and Luton, and Al-Halabi (Al-Murji Al-Mubtadi)

بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ

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Shaikh Ubaid (may Allaah preserve him) said: ”Abdul Maalik has become confounded, disorderly and erratic.”

Shaikh Rabee (may Allaah preserve him) said: ”Abdul Maalik is with Al-Halabi and Al-Maribi.”[a]

Shaikh Abdullaah al-Bukhaari (may Allaah preserve him) said: ”Abdul Maalik is sick and deviated.” [b]

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False Principle Number One

Making it a condition that there has to be Ijmaa (consensus) before Tabdee is accepted

Abdul Maalik Ar-Ramadaani (may Allaah guide him) stated about the Tabdee against Eed Shareefee (may Allaah guide him): [العلماء ما أجمعوا على تبديعه حتي يقال هذا الكلام ] ”The scholars do not hold a consensus on the Tabdee against him (i.e. they do not hold a consensus that he is an innovator) in order for you to speak with this statement (i.e. saying that he is an innovator).”’ [End of quote] [1]

There is no basis for this view of Abdul Maalik. The scholars of Ahlus Sunnah have not made it a condition in the science of Jarh Wat-Tadeel that there has to be consensus before a person is declared an innovator; rather a single aalim is enough. Al-Haafidh Ibn Salaah (rahimahullaaj) said:  ”They (i.e. scholars) differed as to whether Jarh and Tadeel is affirmed by way of the statement of one person or there that has to be a second person? Amongst them are those who say: It is not established (or affirmed) except by way of two people just as (the case) in Jarh Wat-Tadeel in giving witnesses (or testimonies). And from them are those to say:- and this is the correct statement chosen by Al-Haafidh AbuBakr Al-Khateeb and other than him-It is established (or affirmed) by the statement of one person because numbers is not a condition for the acceptance of a khabar. It is not a condition for disparaging or commending its narrator as opposed to giving witness (or testimony).” End of quote [2]

So where is the so called Ijmaa claimed by Abdul Maalik (may Allaah guide him) in this affair?! Consider the statement of Shaikh Ubaid (may Allaah preserve him) when he stated: ”Abdul Maalik has become confounded, disorderly and erratic.” The Shaikh also said: ”At present he is a follower of Ali Halabi and he (i.e. Abdul Maalik) is not to be referred to.” [3] Rather Abdul Maalik (may Allaah guide him) stated: [أنا من المتأثرين بعلي حسن االحلبي ومشهور حسن آل سلمان] ”I am from those influenced by Ali Hasan Al-Halabi and Mash-hoor Hasan Aala Salmaan.” [4] He also says that he is in agreement with Ali Al-Halabi in what Al-Halabi (Al-Murji Al-Mubtadi) has written in his depraved book titled Manhajus Salafi [5]

To be continued….In-Shaa-Allaah

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References:

[a] http://masjidfurqan.co.uk/2014/11/22/1-the-haal-of-abdul-malik-ar-ramadaani/

[b]http://masjidfurqan.co.uk/2014/11/23/3-the-haal-of-abdul-malik-ar-ramadaani-shaikh-abdullaah-al-bukhaari-clarifies/

[1] See 9 in the Pdf on this link: http://www.sahab.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=127155

[2] Muqaddimah Ibn Salaah. Page: 98-99]

[3] http://masjidfurqan.co.uk/2014/11/22/1-the-haal-of-abdul-malik-ar-ramadaani/

[4] http://masjidfurqan.co.uk/2014/11/22/2-the-haal-of-abdul-malik-ar-ramadaani/

[5] http://masjidfurqan.co.uk/2014/11/23/3-the-haal-of-abdul-malik-ar-ramadaani-shaikh-abdullaah-al-bukhaari-clarifies/

See other rebuttals of this false principle propagated

by Abdul-Maalik, Al-Halabi and Al-Maribi and their obstinate followers

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=11548

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=7515

http://salaficentre.com/2014/11/the-correct-stance-towards-the-differing-of-the-scholars-concerning-jarh-and-tadeel-shaikh-ubaid-may-allaah-preserve-him/

http://www.abukhadeejah.com/shaikh-rabee-establishment-of-proof-in-declaring-a-person-to-be-an-innovator/

http://www.abukhadeejah.com/al-jarh-wat-tadeel-and-the-corrupt-principles-of-abu-usamah-khalifah-part-3/

http://www.abukhadeejah.com/al-jarh-wat-tadeel-and-the-corrupt-principles-of-abu-usamah-khalifah-part-2/

http://www.abukhadeejah.com/al-jarh-wat-tadeel-and-the-corrupt-principles-of-abu-usamah-khalifah-part-4/

http://www.abukhadeejah.com/al-jarh-wat-tadeel-and-the-corrupt-principles-of-abu-usamah-khalifah-part-1/

Another act of Dishonesty and Deviation of Brixton’s Mubtadi Mentor [Ali Al-Halabi Al-Murji Al-Mubtadi]

In The Name of Allaah, The Most Merciful, The Betower of Mercy

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The Dishonesty of Brixton’s Mubtadi Mentor

Sheikh Muhammad ibn Haadi said, “Ali Hasan came to my house and I quoted to him the full story from as-Sunnah of al-Khallal so he knew of the boycott of Imam Ahmed regarding ‘Abdulrahman ibn Saalih so why is he misquoting when I already advised him regarding this before he printed this book.”

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Ustaadh Abdul Ilaah Lahmami (may Allaah preserve him) wrote in 2002:

Refuting the false principle of ‘Ali Hasan regarding getting closer to the innovators due to a benefit

Sheikh Rabee’ ibn Haadi al-Madkhali advised to translate refutations against some of these incorrect principles that ‘Ali Hasan has been calling to so that the Muslims do not fall into them due to the doubts been mentioned.

Sheikh Rabee’ stressed that these doubts are dangerous in that they attack the methodology of the pious predecessors in how they used to not mix with the innovators and refute them.

Sheikh ‘Ubayd al-Jaabiree, Sheikh Muhammad ibn Haadi and Sheikh Abdullah al-Bukhaari also showed the seriousness of these latest mistakes of ‘Ali Hasan.

Sheikh ‘Ubayd al-Jaabiree advised also to translate what is sufficient for the people to be aware of these errors so that they do not fall into them.

Doubt number 1

‘Ali Hasan al-Halabi said in his book “Menhaj as-Salafus Saalih fi Tarjeeh al-Masaalih” p.16 regarding the fundamentals of refuting:

“What will these individuals reply, may Allaah guide them regarding the situation of visiting (innovators), to what was reported by Khateeb (Baghdaadi) in his (Tareekh 10/262) and it seems this is the reason for their fitnah.

On the authority of Ya’qoob ibn Yusuf al-Mutdawi’ who said “‘Abdulrahman ibn Saalih al-Azdi who was a Raafidi and he used to visit Imam Ahmed, and he (Imam Ahmed) would bring him closer to himself so it was said,  “O Aba ‘Abdillah, ‘Abdulrahman ibn Saalih al-Azdi is a Raafidi?!  So Imam Ahmed said, “subhanallaah, he is a man who loved the family of the Prophet, shall we say to him don’t love him! He is thiqa (trustworthy in narrating).”

‘Ali Hasan said commenting on this in the footnotes, “even though it was known that Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal rahmahullaah refused Dawood adh-Dhaahiree to enter upon him (due to his position with regards the Qur’an being created).” Tareekh Baghdad (8/373) in a report that many quote without a good understanding but times have changed and one must look at the benefits and harms and they are two important principles which many are unaware of who are energetic upon futile matters.”

The actual complete story between Imam Ahmed and ‘Abdulrahman ibn Saalih al-Azdi, the Raafidi is narrated fully in as-Sunnah of al-Khallal vol.1 p.501 and it is not as ‘Ali Hasan portrayed:  Abu Bakr al-Marwazi said that I heard Aba ‘Abdillaah (Imam Ahmed), there are a people who write these lowly ahadeeth concerning the companions of the Messenger of Allaah, and it is reported that you do not reject that the one who reports these narrations to be from the people of hadeeth. So he became angry and refuted this strongly and said “this is futile! We seek refuge in Allaah, I don’t refute this! Even if this was regarding the lowliest of people then I would have refuted it so how is it then if it was concerning the companions of the Messenger sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam! Then he said “I don’t write these ahadeeth.” I said, “O Aba ‘Abdillaah (Imam Ahmed), if you come to know of one who writes these lowly ahadeeth should he be boycotted?” He said “Yes, the one who narrates these lowly ahadeeth deserves to be stoned.”

Abu ‘Abdillaah (Imam Ahmed) said “‘Abdulrahman came to me and I asked him: do you narrate these ahadeeth?” ‘Abdulrahman said “so and so narrated it and so and so narrated it.” So I tried to have gentleness with him(to advise him such that he leaves his misguidance) but he continued using as proof that so and so narrated these so when I saw him afterwards I turned away from him and did not speak to him.”

Sheikh Muhammad ibn  Haadi said that Imam Ahmed initially didn’t know that Abdulrahman ibn Saalih was a Raafidi (since he spoke about ‘Uthman and Mu’awiyyah ibn Abi Sufyaan (may Allaah be pleased with them)) because he showed his love for the Prophet’s family initially and spoke well of Abu Bakr and ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with them). However, when it became known to Imam Ahmed that he was spreading these narrations against the companions, Imam Ahmed turned away from him and didn’t speak to him.

Sheikh ‘Ubayd al-Jaabiree said that Imam Ahmed’s position towards ‘Abdulrahman ibn Saalih is his same position towards Dawood adh-Dhaahiree so ‘Ali Hasan is mistaken in trying to separate the two incidents.Sheikh Muhammad ibn Haadi mentioned that ‘Ali Hasan is mistaken to use an incomplete story regarding Imam Ahmed’s position to allow one to come closer to the innovators in the name of benefit (maslaha) as this opens doors to much evil.

Sheikh Muhammad ibn Haadi said, “Ali Hasan came to my house and I quoted to him the full story from as-Sunnah of al-Khallal so he knew of the boycott of Imam Ahmed regarding ‘Abdulrahman ibn Saalih so why is he misquoting when I already advised him regarding this before he printed this book.”

Sheikh Abdullah al-Bukhaari said that Ali Hasan’s book should not be called Menhaj as-Salaf but rather Menhaj al-khalaf regarding the opposition in it to the methodology of the Sallaf.

Sheikh Ubayd al-Jaabiree said that these doubts concerning the allowance of visiting and mixing with the innovators in the name of maslaha (overall benefit) will open doors to many to mix with the innovators (and sign pledges of mutual cooperation as we have seen in the name of maslaha).

Sheikh Muhammad ibn Haadi mentioned that these errors are clearly the reason for Ali Hasan’s defence for cooperating with ‘Abdulrahman Abdulkhaaliq’s Ihyaa Turath, Abul Hasan al-Misree, Maghrawi, Adnan ‘Urur, Muhammad Hassan and others who have refuted by the scholars and until today have not retracted their errors.

May Allaah guide us all to the truth and protect us. Indeed He is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful
End of translation.

Source:  http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=7798

How to deal with a Salafi when he errs…..

Assalaamu alaykum warahmatullaah;
Shaikh Muhammad Baazmool (may Allaah preserve him) delivered a very beneficial lecture titled: ‘How to deal with a Salafi when he errs…” Download Arabic Audio from this link: www.sahab.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=144483  Note: In-Shaa-Allaah there is a lot of benefit in this lecture if you listen to all of it and not just some of it. May Allaah grant us beneficial knowledge. Aameen.

From the benefits of the story of Aadam (alayhis salaam) – Imaam As-Sa’dee

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

Whosoever Allah blesses with knowledge then he recognises and acknowledges the blessing of Allah upon him and he says just as the Angels and the Prophets said:

قَالُوا سُبْحَانَكَ لَا عِلْمَ لَنَا إِلَّا مَا عَلَّمْتَنَا إِنَّكَ أَنتَ الْعَلِيمُ الْحَكِيمُ

They (angels) said: “Glory be to You, we have no knowledge except what you have taught us. Verily, it is You, the All-Knower, the All-Wise.”

And he ceases talking about that which he does not know. For indeed knowledge is the greatest of blessings and (the slave) gives thanks for this blessing by recognising and acknowledging Allah with it.

And he praises Him by teaching it (knowledge) and teaching the ignorant and stopping upon that which the slave has learnt, and remaining silent about what he hasn’t learnt.

المصدر: قصص الأنبياء للإمام السعدي

[20] Advice for seekers of knowledge–a statement of Al’Qaasim Bin Muhammad

Imaam Maalik (rahimahullaah) said that it reached him from Al-Qaasim Bin Muhammad (rahimahullaah) who said: “I met a people (i.e. Salaf) who were not amazed by speech, rather they were amazed by actions.”

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[Quoted by Shaikh Raslaan in Fadlul Ilm. page: 597]

[17] Advice for seekers of knowledge- an example in Imaam Ahmad!

It was said to Imaam Ahmad (rahimahullaah): What is better; to speak or remain silent? So he said: ”Remaining silent is more beloved to me, except when (I have to speak) out of necessity.”

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Quoted by Shaikh Raslaan in Fadlul Ilm. page: 543

[16] Advice for seekers of knowledge—Never feel shy to say I do not know!

Ash-Shabiy (rahimahullaah) was asked (about an affair of the deen), so he said: “I don’t know.” Then it was said to him, “Do you not feel shy of your statement” I don’t know” and you’re the faqeeh of the people of Basra?” So he said: “But the angels did not feel shy when they said [i.e. Allaah said that the angels said: قَالُواْ سُبۡحَـٰنَكَ لَا عِلۡمَ لَنَآ إِلَّا مَا عَلَّمۡتَنَآ‌ۖ-They (angels) said: “Glory be to You, we have no knowledge except what you have taught us. (2:32)]

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Quoted by Shaikh Raslaan in Fadlul Ilm page: 542