You Are Either with the Scholars or with That Other Person

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

“You Are Either with the Scholars or with That Other Person”

A Statement of Truth by Which Repugnant Opinionated Behaviour Is Concealed – Be Alert  O Youth of Salaficentre!

Allah, The Most High, said:

وَأَسِرُّوا۟ قَوْلَكُمْ أَوِ ٱجْهَرُوا۟ بِهِۦٓ إِنَّهُۥ عَلِيمٌۢ بِذَاتِ ٱلصُّدُورِ

And conceal your speech or proclaim it (openly), indeed, He (Allah) is All-Knowing of what is (hidden) in the breasts (of men). [Al-Mulk 13]

O youth of Salaficentre (Manchester)! Be alert and vigilant when you hear someone saying under the guise of knowledge: “You are either with the scholars or with that other person.” In reality, he means that you must align with those he supports and oppose those he opposes. This statement can be utilised for both truth and falsehood, so remain cautious.

Firstly, it is undeniable that when the truth is clear and unambiguous, we must stand with those who uphold the truth, but not simply based on name-dropping or elevating the status of individuals.

Secondly, the person making this statement leaves the term scholars vague, leading the unsuspecting reader to believe that the opponent lacks scholarly support and should therefore be disregarded. Thus, the speaker monopolises the term scholars in the mind of the unsuspecting reader, exaggerates the credentials of those he supports, either completely overlooks the evidence presented by the opponent or fails to provide any proof to back his position. Nothing remains except that the speaker desires you to follow his preference solely based on his self-perceived authority, insisting that his referenced authorities are superior to those cited by the opponent, regardless of the evidence. This behaviour—regardless of who manifests it —is unacceptable, especially when the opinionated speaker is asked for proof and offers none. Allah said:

وَيْلٌ لِّلْمُطَفِّفِينَ
الَّذِينَ إِذَا اكْتَالُوا عَلَى النَّاسِ يَسْتَوْفُونَ
وَإِذَا كَالُوهُمْ أَو وَّزَنُوهُمْ يُخْسِرُونَ
أَلَا يَظُنُّ أُولَٰئِكَ أَنَّهُم مَّبْعُوثُونَ
لِيَوْمٍ عَظِيمٍ
يَوْمَ يَقُومُ النَّاسُ لِرَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ

Woe to Al-Mutaffifin [those who give less in measure and weight (decrease the rights of others)], those who, when they have to receive by measure from men, demand full measure, and when they have to give by measure or weight to men, give less than due. Think they not that they will be resurrected (for reckoning), on a Great Day, the Day when (all) mankind will stand before the Lord of the ‘Alamin (mankind, jinns and all that exists)? [Al-Mutaffifeen. 1-7]

وَإِذَا كَالُوهُمْ أَو وَّزَنُوهُمْ يُخْسِرُونَ

and when they have to give by measure or weight to men, give less than due.

Imam As-Sadi, may Allah have mercy upon him, said:

This noble verse shows that just as a person takes from the people what he is entitled to, it is also obligated to him to give them everything they are entitled to – whether related to wealth or mutual dealings; rather included in the generality of this verse are proofs and statements, because what usually takes place between those engaged in argumentation and discussion is that each of them is eager to establish his proofs, thus, it is obligated to a person to also make known the proofs possessed by the other person and examine the proofs of the other person just as he examines his own proofs. In relation to this affair, the justice of a person is known as opposed to whether he is afflicted with bigotry, his humility as opposed to being haughty, his common sense as opposed to foolish behaviour. We ask Allah bestow on us every good. [Tafsir As-Sadi]

Let us stand firmly against this repugnant opinionated behaviour disguised as a balanced path to reaching the truth while the speaker completely fails to offer any credible proof to back up his claims. Indeed, there is no enforced loyalty or commitment to anyone when evaluating proofs, nor is there an obligation to create a group identity based on anything other than the truth. Therefore, we must uphold justice, as Allah has commanded us to do so on behalf of both allies and opponents. Read here: https://salafidawahmanchester.com/2026/04/13/1-justice-for-all/

Finally: We ask once again, “Where is the proof for the Tabdee against Shaikh Abu Iyaad, may Allah protect him”.

The False Tabdee Must Be Recanted Because Neither Shariah Nor Sound Intellect Acknowledges That Harm Can Remain

[1] Still Waiting! Where’s The Clear Unambiguous Knowledge-Based Shariah Proof for the Tabdee?

[2] Still Waiting! Where’s The Clear Unambiguous Knowledge-Based Shariah Proof for the Tabdee?

[3] Still Waiting! Where’s The Clear Unambiguous Knowledge-Based Shariah Proof for the Tabdee

[4] Still Waiting! Where’s The Clear Unambiguous Knowledge-Based Shariah Proof for the Tabdee

[5] Still Waiting! Where’s The Clear Unambiguous Knowledge-Based Shariah Proof for the Tabdee

Contemplating Some Reasons Behind Stubbornness After Being Guilty of False Tabdee or Erroneous in Other Matters

[6] Still Waiting! Where’s The Clear Unambiguous Knowledge-Based Shariah Proof for the Tabdee