My Shaikh or Elder Is More Knowledgeable or More Experienced Than Yours

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

We constantly heard over thirty years ago: “Respect the people of knowledge and honour them, but where is the proof”. And we still hear this from people who value this robust principle. [a]

However, nowadays when some people want to convince you about the weightier proof held by someone who is a Shaikh or elder in their eyes, they miss an important point regarding the fact that position does not automatically mean the validity of Dalil. So, when you say: “I heard Shaikh so and so say this or that based on this verse, this hadith and this statement of the Salaf”, he says, “But Shaikh or elder so and so says”. We say, “What about the proof”. He says, “Do you think that the Shaikh or elder will speak without Dalil?” We say, “Present the Dalil as we have also presented a verse, a hadith and an understanding of the Salaf from a Shaikh”. He says, “My Shaikh or elder is more knowledgeable, more experienced and with a stronger Tazkiyah than your Shaikh or elder”. We reiterate, “Where is the Dalil? Experience should be evaluated on relevance; not selective standard, special pleading, selective sourcing, narrow framing, curated consensus, post hoc justification, personal authority selection, subjective ranking of authorities, deference by preference or personalised epistemic authority. Your Shaikh or elder has not asked you to use his name in this manner, nor convince others on his behalf to abandon Dalil for his sake”.

In this regard, we leave you with some statements of the upright scholars, Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim and others, may Allah have mercy upon them.

Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim, may Allah have mercy upon him, said:

فمن هداه اللهُ سُبحانَه إلى الأخذِ بالحقِّ حيثُ كان، ومع مَن كان، ولو كان مع من يُبغِضُه ويُعاديه، وردِّ الباطِلِ مع من كان، ولو كان مع مَن يحِبُّه ويُواليه؛ فهو ممَّن هُدِيَ لِما اختُلِفَ فيه من الحَقِّ

(الصواعق المرسلة)) (2/516

Whoever Allah—Glorified be He, free from all imperfections—guides to embrace (accept, uphold, etc) the truth, no matter where it comes from and with whomever it maybe, even if it is with someone he hates and (shows) enmity, and he rejects falsehood, no matter with whomever it may be, even if it is with someone he loves and allies with, he is from those who have been guided to the truth regarding matters on which (people) differ. [1]

Imam Ash-Shawkaanee, may Allah have mercy on him, said:

فاعلم أنه إذا وقع الخلاف بين المسلمين في أن هذا الشيء بدعة او غير بدعة ، أو مكروه او غير مكروه ، او محرم او غير محرم ، او غير ذلك ، فقد اتفق المسلمون : سلفهم وخلفهم ، من عصر الصحابة الى عصرنا هذا – وهو القرن الثالث عشر منذ البعثة المحمدية – أن الواجب الاختلاف في أي أمر من أمور الدين بين الأئمة المجتهدين : هو الرد الى كتاب الله سبحانه ، وسنة رسوله الناطق بذلك
الكتاب العزيز ( ٤ : ٥٩ فإن تنازعتم في شيء فردوه إلى الله والرسول ( ومعنى الرد الى الله سبحانه : الرد الى كتابه
ومعنى الرد إلى رسوله ال : الرد الى سنته بعد وفاته وهذا مما لا خلاف فيه بين جميع المسلمين . فإذا قال مجتهد من المجتهدين
هذا حلال . وقال الآخر : هذا حرام : فليس
أحدهما أولى بالحق من الآخر وإن كان اكثر منه علماً ، أو اكبر منه سنا ، او اقدم منه عصراً لأن كل واحد منهما فرد من أفراد عباد الله ، ومتعبد بما في الشريعة المطهرة، مما في كتاب الله وسنة رسوله ، ومطلوب منه ما طلب الله من غيره من العباد . وكثرة علمه وبلوغه درجة الاجتهاد او مجاوزته لها لا يسقط عنه شيئاً من الشرائع التي شرعها الله لعباده ، ولا يخرجه من جملة المكلفين من العباد

Know that when differing arise among Muslims regarding whether this thing (matter) is a Bidah or not a Bidah, (something) disliked or not disliked, prohibited, or not prohibited, or other than that, there is a consensus among Muslims (i.e. their scholars) —both the early generations and those that followed, from the era of the Companions to the present day, which is the thirteenth century since the advent of the Prophethood—that the obligation in any differing – in any issue among the issues of the religion – between Imams of Ijtihad is to refer back to the Book of Allah, the Exalted, and the Sunnah of His Messenger, as stated in Allāh’s Book:

فَإِن تَنَٰزَعْتُمْ فِى شَىْءٍ فَرُدُّوهُ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ وَٱلرَّسُولِ

And if you disagree among yourselves over anything then refer it back to Allāh and the Messenger. [An-Nisa 59]

The meaning of referring back to Allah, the Exalted, is to refer to His Book, and the meaning of referring to His Messenger, peace and blessings of Allāh be upon him, is to refer to his Sunnah after his passing. This is a matter about which there is no differing among the Muslims.

If a Mujtahid among the Mujtahideen says that this (thing) is lawful while another says this (thing) is unlawful, neither is any of the two more entitled to the truth than the other, even if he possesses more knowledge, older, or closer to the (early era of Islam). This is because each of them is a servant of Allāh among the servants of Allāh, (required) to worship (Allāh) based on what is found in the pure Sharia- that which is found in Allāh’s Book and the Sunnah of His Messenger, and what is required of him is required of other than him among Allāh’s servants. His abundant knowledge, the attainment of the level of Ijtihad, or even surpassing it, does not exempt him from any of the religious laws legislated by Allah for His servants, nor do they exclude him from those who have reached the age in which one is held accountable for his actions among the servants (of Allāh). [2]

Al-Allamah Muqbil Bin Hadi Al-Wadi’ee, may Allah have mercy upon him, said:

What I advise the brothers is that they are eager for the texts of the Qur’an and Sunnah. (As for) an issue about which there is no proof, there is no harm that we return to the statements of the Imams and utilise it as support. [3]

He said:

“Call to the Book and the Sunnah. Do not call to personalities, for indeed personalities are not safe from Fitna”. [4]

He said:

“If Allah shows you the truth, do not be bothered even if opposed, and be gentle with other scholars. As for the one whose conduct is conspicuously (blameworthy) every day, his condition must be clarified”. [5]

[a]https://salafidawahmanchester.com/2025/12/30/the-people-of-knowledge/

[1] s-Sawaa’iq Al-Mursalah 2/516 Paraphrased

[2] Sharh As-Sudoor Bi-Tahreem Raf Al-Qubur pages 1-2

[3] Al-Basha’ir Fis Samaa Al-Mubashir” page 13 with introduction by Shaikh Muhammad Ibn Abdil Wahhab Al-Wassaabee, rahimahullah

[4] Al-Basha’ir page 12

[5] Al-Basha’ir 25