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Shaykh Rabee’: We have remained patient for 7 years, [with Yahya al-Hajoori]

Excerpts:

  • They (Yahya and his followers) are waging a war against the Salafis and Salafiyaah, and the people of innovation are relaxing and watching. Is this from good manners!?

 

  • We have remained patient for 7 years, whilst letters and complaints have reached us. And now you have to force him to change his ways. If he carries on upon his ways, it will cause an incomparable fitnah.

 

  • I have advised him many times, sometimes I advise him for two and half hours. He doesn’t listen! He promises but he doesn’t fulfill his promises. May Allaah bless you, and his students are extremists [ghulaat], with an extremism that has no equal.

 

  • Take the position of men with regards to him. He has harmed the people of Salafiyyah. There is no one more harmful than Yahya. Only Dammaj is left [considered Salafi] and all the centers are under the feet [nothing] except Dammaj.

 

  • Did he [Yahya] rebuke it*? Did he openly free himself from this speech? No! You people applaud him when he arrives at this extremism.

 

  • By Allaah, we have not seen this type of extremism from the people of innovation that we see from his students.

 

  • By Allaah, I am holding back from comparing him to some of the innovators that I have refuted in the past. All we hear is ‘Imam al-Thaqalayn…an-Nasihul Ameen [the sincere adviser]

 

  • Tell him that he is only a student and not an Alim. He is not a sincere adviser; he is not an Imam of anything. Tell him that he is just a student; tell him to fear Allaah and to join his brothers hand in hand – his brothers of Ahlul Sunnah. Tell him to leave this extremism and evil behaviour.

 

  • They heaviest thing on the scales on the Day of Judgement is good manners, so tell him to teach his students good manners and to have good manners himself. He will not get anywhere without it.

 

  • Student of Damaaj: “O’ Shaykh all that we have heard from you is praise for him. You called him and praised him…”Shaykh Rabee ibn Hadee al-Madkhalee: “By Allaah! Listen to me, by Allaah, I did not say this except that he claimed to have abandoned everything that he said and in order to bring him closer to us, and cause him to become gentle. But all we witnessed up until today are lies, deception and extremism. By Allaah, you see the extremism of the students there. There are no manners with them whatsoever. Go back and tell them this from me.

 

Read the full document here: http://www.salafitalk.com/threads/1541-Shaykh-Rabee-We-have-remained-patient-for-7-years-with-Yahya-al-Hajoori


* in reference to the poet calling him “Imam al-Thaqalayn”

 

Tonight’s Dars @Masjid Salafi (Birmingham) After Maghrib–The Affair of Al-Hajoori

In The Name of Allaah, The Most Merciful, The Bestower of Mercy

Ibn Rajab (rahimahullaah) stated: The people of innovation and misguidance—whoever (seeks) to resemble the scholars and is not from them, then it is permissible to clarify their ignorance and manifest their blame worthy (affairs), as a warning against following them.

Ustaadh Abdul Waahid (Abu Khadeejah) will deliver a lecture tonight @Masjid Salafi (Birmingham) after Salaatul Maghrib UK time. This lecture will be a clarification of the statements and stances of the scholars towards Yahyhah Al-Hajoori Al-Haddaadi Al-Mubtadi (may Allaah return him to correctness).

A Clear Stance towards the main flag bearer of Hajoori fanaticism in Manchester

In The Name of Allaah, The Most Merciful, The Bestower of Mercy

Shaikh Abdullaah Al-Bukhaari (may Allaah preserve him) stated recently about the followers of Hajoori Al-Mubtadi: These people are of two types, one who is ignorant of the deviations of al-Hajuri, so he is taught and reminded or the one who knows of his deviations, has been informed of them, but he defends him so is thrown alongside him…. [End of quote: Translated by Ustaadh Amjad Rafiq (may Allaah preserve him)]

This statement of Shaikh Abdullaah Al-Bukhaari is a specific ruling regarding the circumstances of the UK followers and defenders of Al-Hajoori Al-Haddaadi Al-Mubtadi; likewise we find the Shaikh’s teachers amongst the Scholars making similar but general statements regarding innovators and their followers. Al-Allaamah Zaid Bin Hadee Al-Madkhalee (may Allaah preserve him) stated:

Indeed Ahlus Sunnah are people who possess fear of Allaah– they neither make Takfeer, Tafseeq (i.e. declare a person a sinner) and Tabdee (declare a person an innovator) except against the one who deserves it based on the evidences in the Book and the Sunnah and the understanding of the pious predecessors of this Ummah.

Secondly, you should know: The people of desires and misguidance are (categorized into) those who are followed and those who follow; indeed, those followed are the ones who set up the various principles of innovation and they call to their innovation and misguidance, and they will carry their burden of sins and the burden of the sins of those whom they misguided without knowledge, as it is clearly stated in the Qur’aan and the Sunnah. As for the followers of a leader from amongst the people of desires, then in most cases they are of two categories:

The First Category:
Those who possess knowledge, but they harbor evil intentions. So they yield to Satan, desires and the urge of the evil soul. They follow the people of misguidance and oppose the callers to guidance (in that which) Allaah sent His Messenger Muhammad (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) with.

The Second Category:
Their share of knowledge is little, so the people of desires take advantage of them and they become (part) of their group. They convince them that what they call them to is the manifest truth and that what their opponents are upon is falsehood. And they convey to them a huge (number) of affairs that resemble the truth but are falsehood in reality, in order to deceive them and submerge them into misguidance. [End of quote: Source: For further details see: Al-Ajwibah Al-Athariyyah Anil Masaa-il Al-Manhajiyyah, Khamsoona Su’aalan Wa-Jawaaban: page: 18-19:]

Indeed, those who are neither afflicted with confusion nor fanaticism know that the scholars have clarified Hajoori’s evil state of affairs—some have warned against his dangerous mistakes, some have warned against his vile street language, some have warned against his lies and contradictions and some have warned against his extremism and recklessness. However, despite the clear warnings of the scholars– based on the dangerous errors and extremist stances found in his tapes– such as the likes of Shaikh Rabee, Shaikh Ubaid, Shaikh Muhammad Bin Haadee, Shaikh Abdullaah Al-Bukhaari, Shaikh Muhammad Bin Abdul Wahhaab Al-Wasabi etc, the leading Email Shaykh- Hajoori-Fanatic of Manchester still hides behind a computer and sends emails whose contents are filled with nothing more than fanaticism, ignorance and emotional nonsense. He cannot come to terms with the fact that his Haddaadi Mubtadi Shaikh has not offered any sound fundamental principles to justify his positions; rather he only offers empty talk, quackery, vagueness, cover up, agitation, arrogance and rage. This is the reality of the affair; however this particular deluded and self-amazed flag bearer of Hajoori fanaticism seeks to argue with falsehood and emotional nonsense. Indeed, this behaviour is not befitting a man over the age of forty.

Therefore, it must be made known without any ambiguities that the nonsense and fanaticism he displays whilst attacking the students of knowledge, the Salafi centres and some of the Mashaayikh will not be tolerated anymore. This is what every sensible person expects from us. Finally, we remind this Email Shaykh-Hajoori Fanatic that his Haddaadi Mubtadi Shaikh is the cause of the spitting and chaos. Shaikh Zaid Bin Haadee Al-Madkhalee (may Allaah preserve him) said:

“The innovator is the cause for splitting; because splitting is connected to innovation and unity is connected to the Sunnah. The obligation of refuting the Mukhaalif is not lifted from the scholar due to anticipation of harm, unless it is harm he is not able to bear. Then (in this case), Allah does not burden a soul beyond what it can bear. The earth is not devoid of people of knowledge who will carry out refutation against the Mubtadi and the Mukhaalif.” [Al Ajwibah Al Mukhtasar Alaa As-ila Al-Ashrati (Pgs. 43-44)]

We ask Allaah to guide this individual or protect us from his foolishness, delusion, self-amazement and arrogance.

Fanatics of al-Hajoori Attempting to “Refute Their Way Out”[!]

In recent weeks we have witnessed the rise of the “E-Mail Shaikhs” and the consequent embarassing demise that followed, as predicted all that will remain in the end is a group of extremist fanatics of al-Hajoori emailing each other with absurd nonsense for comfort. It appears the statement of Shaikh Rabee’ is completely applicable in Manchester and the surrounding regions with regards to many of these fanatics having been in Dammaj for miniscule time periods and then attempting to fuel fitnah. Some from these extremist fanatics – whether it is Dammaj or elsewhere they have “studied” [in reality a month or two having learnt nothing other than a handful of words of the Arabic Language for many of them] -, most likely those with an inferior intellectual capacity leading them to not recognise the shame they bring upon themselves, have continued to forward worthless emails filled with absurdities.

They have attempted to make mention of Shaikh ‘Ubayd and the ludicrous claim that he has been refuted – by no other than their extremist Shaikh!. They spent time going through other people of knowledge one by one and either “advising”[!] or outright attempting to “refute” them upon their delusional state, they made mention of Shaikh Bazmool, and now it seems a deluded uprising against Shaikh Abdullah al-Bukhary is the recent focus…

Firstly, it is amazing how depleted the intellects of such fanatics have become; it would appear they seem to think upon their delusional state they are going to “refute their way out” by attempting to “take out” anyone and everyone who upholds and furthers the speech of Shaikh Rabee’, be it Shaikh ‘Ubayd, Shaikh Bazmool, Shaikh al-Wassaby and now Shaikh Abdullah al-Bukhary amongst many others!!…. little wonder Shaikh Rabee’ stated that they consider everyone else is under their feet!

Secondly, Shaikh Abdullah al-Bukhary is well known from the people of knowledge in Madinah, a teacher at the Islamic Unviersity, proficient in the Sciences of Hadith and praised by the scholars, this is the speech of Shaikh Rabee’ regarding those who speak ill of Shaikh Abdullah al-Bukhary, “I advise the youth in Madeenah to attend the lessons of brother Abdullah Al-Bukhari; for he is from the chosen of Ahlu-Sunnah, and from those who defend Ahlu Sunnah…he is from the best of the graduates of the Islaamic University of Madeenah.”
As-Shaykh Allaamah Muhammad Amaan Jaamee has also praised Shaykh Al-Bukhaaree.

All that remains to be seen is how long young, foolish, ignorant fanatics who are urged on through seeking respect from their seniors will continue to spread such foolish speech regarding the people of knowledge from ahlus-Sunnah in an attempt to “refute their way out” of this calamity they have entered themselves into through their extremism…and how long local young, foolish, ignorant fanatics will continue to humiliate and disgrace themselves by persisting in forwarding emails…?

By Allah it would be better for them to leave this destructive path of extremism and return to the truth, we ask Allah to rectify their affairs.

Manhaj, Principles of the Salaf, Attacking Ahlus Sunnah and Misconceptions Addressed – Ustadh Aboo Tasneem

  • From the principles of the salaf 2: Attacking & discrediting Ahlus sunnah is an attack on the sunnah… pic.twitter.com/q2NBEH4ZTK
  • The shortcoming of many of the youth concerning principle 2 ‘Attacking and discrediting Ahlus Sunnah…’ pic.twitter.com/cDtPQnptVN
  • Addressing A Misconception concerning principle2: Is discrediting the one who attacks Ahlus sunnah fanaticism? pic.twitter.com/SnqvnuR4tA
  • Another Misconception: That Allegiance and enmity is in no way associated with the abandonment of the innovator! pic.twitter.com/tBKUpsNCBP

The Audacious Claim that al-Hajoori has “Clarified”[!] Shaikh Rabee’s Statement!

Regrettably the continued act to save face does not cease from the extremists of al-Hajoori, from the most audacious of claims recently presented being that al-Hajoori has somehow “clarified” the statement of Shiakh Rabee’!

Such a claim from the extremists presents certain difficulties; it is beyond comprehension what exactly they desire to believe upon their delusion has been clarified?

What part of the statement that they have ghulluw in them, an extremism that has no equal, has been “clarified?” To this day we see the extremists of al-Hajoori continuing upon their way of the “e-mail shaikhs” by sending embarassing attempts to redeem themselves, and it would be far better from them to accept their reality and repent. To this day we hear of them “refuting” the apparent “double standards” that exist from everyone refuting them? To this day they remain upon their statement that the only salafi masjid in Manchester has engaged in “criminal” acts! Yet they may be unaware that the reign of the e-mail shaikhs is coming to an end too, since certain individuals have already blocked them and they persist in humiliating themselves by sending emails! In the end they will have no one left but a group of the foolish sending each other emails to console themselves.

Similarly which part of the statement that they wage war against the salafis has been clarified? They continue to speak against the salafi centres of the UK, Canada and elsewhere, they continue to speak against all those who have further emphasised the speech of Shaikh Rabee’ upon them….

It is humiliating and embarassing to say the least that they have the deluded audacity to claim that the statement of Shaikh Rabee’ has been “clarified”!…the clarification is simple…they are extremists and foolish.

Abandon them and their ways and focus on seeking knowledge upon the sound methodology as taught by the scholars, not upon the fanatical exaggeration of the students of al-Hajoori.

Al-Hajoori Extremists Continue to “Advise”[!] Everyone Refuting Their Shaikh and Them!

Following the recent clarity that has arisen regarding the extremism of al-Hajoori and his foolish “students”, certain fanatics continue to fly the battered flag of extremism in Manchester and elsewhere. Shaikh Rabee’ – may Allah protect him – spoke with clarity and described with precision the type of extremists they all are, thereafter multiple other respected people of knowledge provided even further clarity on the issue.

But now… The extremists have unbelievably started speaking against ALL those refuting them one by one!!

Local “email shaikhs” continue to send emails [although less frequently!] attempting to defame anyone who has now backed up the statement of Shaikh Rabee’ on al-Hajoori and his extremism!

How long will they continue? Perhaps they do not realise they are actualising the statement of Shaikh Rabee even more by their activities, truly it appears everyone else is below them and they are the only true salafis! It appears everyone refuting them and their shaikh is now on “double standards”[!].

We ask Allah to protect us from their fitnah, if they insist in continuing upon their extremism in humiliation that is their regrettable choice.

The Islamic Groups of This Era–Al’Allaamah Saaleh Al-Fawzaan

In The Name of Allaah, The Most Merciful, The Bestower of Mercy

Question:
Virtuous Shaikh May Allaah grant you success; some of the people ask me about the Islamic groups present in this era, what should I do—should I give them an answer or direct them to the scholars, bearing in mind that I am a teacher in one of the schools?

Answer:
Direct them to what has been transmitted in the Ahaadeeth and it is his (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) statement: ‘’This Ummah will split into seventy three sects and all of them are in the fire except one; so it was said: ‘’which one is it O Messenger of Allaah? He said: ‘’Those who are upon the likes of that which I and my companions are upon today’’. Direct them to this hadeeth, and say: Those who are upon that which the Messenger and his companions were upon—they are Ahlus Sunnah al-Jamaa-ah. Those who oppose them are the ones promised the hell-fire, (regardless) of whatever name they are called. It is not incumbent upon you (to know) their names, (rather) what is important (to know) are (their) opposition to the methodology of Ahlus Sunnah Wal-Jamaa-ah which the Messenger (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) and his companions were upon. Yes.

[source: http://www.sahab.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=136685]

Imaam Muqbil and Imaam as San’aanee – Accepting the Jarh is NOT taqleed

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

السلام عليكم

The fanatical supporters of al-Hajoori are making many claims, regarding the Salafis who have taken the stance, and accept the criticism of Shaykh Rabee with regards to their Shaykh Yahya Hajoori.

When Shaykh Rabee’ said

‘Take the position of men with regards to him. He has harmed the people of Salafiyyah. There is no one more harmful than Yahya.’

Then it was clear that these attacks from his followers would come. They claim that those who carry his criticism, have made taqleed of Shaykh Rabee as they claim that al Hajoori is known for his Salafiyyah (by them) so the Jarh therefore does not apply.

Shaykh Muqbil -rahimahullah- said regarding this last point;

”So if a weak person speaks about an Imaam from amongst the Great Imams then his speech is not accepted,an example of that is the speech of Qardaawee about ash-Shaykh Ibn Baaz”

So the first question; Is Shaykh Rabee -hafidahullah- ‘a Weak person’? Shaykh Rabee’s position has been made clear and the following link will illustrate that they are only attempting to defend their own Shaykh and his mistakes, whilst attacking a mountain of knowledge:

Kibaar past and present on Shaykh Rabee

By contrast they raise al Hajoori, claiming that he is from the ”GREAT Imaams”… According to their delusions, and extreme love he is so much more…

Shaykh Rabee said

”Tell him (Yahyah) that he is only a student and not an Alim. He is not a sincere adviser; he is not an Imam of anything. Tell him that he is just a student; tell him to fear Allaah and to join his brothers hand in hand – his brothers of Ahlul Sunnah. Tell him to leave this extremism and evil behaviour.”

It seems very strange then that we have Al Imaam Muqbil, holding a position contrary to the claims of these defenders of al Haajori. However if we go further back we have the statements of Al Imaam as San’aanee, refuting the people of innovation of his time, who came with similar arguments and deception.

Will these individuals now claim that Imaam Muqbil and Imaam As San’aanee -rahimahumallah- were following and calling to the blameworthy methodology of Taqleed?!

Let us look again to the truth in Shaykh Rabee’s words -hafidahullah-

‘By Allaah, we have not seen this type of extremism from the people of innovation that we see from his students.’

‘They (Yahya and his followers) are waging a war against the Salafis and Salafiyaah,’

In truth this statement is becoming manifest in their statements every day…. People may try to hide but Allaah The Most High exposes them sooner or later.

Benefit from the following links and protect yourself with knowledge from the distortions and deceptions of the extremists from the followers of Yahyah, whom actually have the opportunity to either visit or ring Shaykh Rabee’ if they would like more details, yet they do not, rather they are attacking the Salafis for accepting the advice of the Shaykh.

We ask Allah the turner of the hearts to keep our hearts firm upon his religion and protect us from misguidance

Accepting the jarh of the Scholars is not taqleed – Shaykh Muqbil and Imam As San’aanee

Imaam Muqbil – Q&A Regarding accepting the Jarh, Hizbees and Taqleed

Major Scholars Past and Present on Shaykh Rabee