قيل للإمام الأوزاعي إن رجلاً يقول:أنا أجالس أهل السنة وأجالس أهل البدع
فقال الأوزاعي:هذا رجل يريد أن يساوي بين الحق والباطل
الإبانة-2/456
It was said to Imaam Al-Awzaa’ee (rahimahullaah): Indeed a man says, ‘I sit with Ahlus Sunnah and I sit with ahlul bidah.’
So Al-Awzaa’ee said: This man wants to equate truth with falsehood.
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[Al-Ibaanah 2/456]
This questioner says:
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
If a student of knowledge utters innovation and calls to it, and he is one with Fiqh and (knowledge of) Hadeeth; does his speech of innovation necessitate an invalidation of his knowledge and his (knowledge) of hadeeth, and not to (benefit from) him unrestrictedly?
Answer:
Yes, he is not to be trusted; the one who is an Innovator is neither to be trusted nor his knowledge, nor (to have) a lackadaisical (stance) towards him. That is because if you (have) a lackadaisical (stance) towards him, the student will be influenced by his Shaikh-he will be influenced by his teacher. Therefore, it is obligatory to be distanced from the people of innovation, and the Salaf (pious predecessors) used to forbid (others) from sitting with the innovators, visiting and going to them; so that their evil is not spread to the one who sits with them and mixes with them.
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Setting Up Trials In Islaam [Imaam Al'Barbahaari (rahimahullaah)] pic.twitter.com/oiPB5QdmhX
— Masjid al Furqān (@IslamStoke) December 30, 2014
Qataadah (rahimahullaah) said:
You will find that the people of falsehood differ in their statements, desires and deeds whilst they are all united in their enmity against the people of truth.
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[Tafseer At-Tabari 28/47]
Shaikh Badr Ibn Muhammad Al-Badr Al-Anzy stated:
A Risaalah (treatise) was sent to me by some of the brothers concerning the affair of Faizal Al-Jaasim’s disassociation (from) the group Ihyaa Turaath Al-Islaami. The statement he issued concerning his disassociation is in reality not a disassociation; rather it is ‘keeping a distance‘ (in one direction) and ‘Coming Close’ (from another direction)-being distanced from ascription to Ihyaa Turaath, but coming close (to them) with regards to companionship, giving instructions and co-operating (with them)!
And (it is) amazing that he (Faisal) acknowledges the Mukhaalafaat of Ihyaa Turaath; the hizbiyyah (they are upon); their entry into politics and adherence to their Takfeeri Shaikh, Abdur- Rahmaan Abdul Khaaliq; but then he (Faisal) stated at the end of his statement that –in his view-there is no hindrance in cooperating with them!!! Your return to the Salafi Manhaj is confirmed as you claim. Is it from the Salafi Manhaj to co-operate with innovators?
By Allaah your disassociation (from Ihyaa Turaath) is similar to the disassociation of حاي الحاي- it is only a disassociation by way of ascription and not (by way) of thought. Here is حاي الحاي – his lessons are held at Ihyaa Turaath and he praises some of its Shaikhs, and this فيصل قزار says that there are Salafi Shaikhs within (Ihyaa Turaath) and there is no hindrance in co-operating with them. For this reason- my brothers- do not rejoice (due) these (people’s) abandonment of the Jam-iyah (i.e. Ihyaa Turaath) because in reality they abandon their ascriptions to the Jam-iyah but not the thought of the Jam-iyah. [1]
للشيخ: بدر بن محمد البدر العنزي
بشأن اعتزال فيصل قزار الجاسم جماعة أحياء التراث الإسلامي
الحمد لله رب العالمين
وبعد:
أُرسلت لي رسالة من بعض الأخوة
بشأن اعتزال فيصل قزار الجاسم
جماعة أحياء التراث الإسلامي
وإذا بالبيان الذي أصدره في اعتزاله ليس باعتزال في حقيقة الأمر
بل هو بُعد وقُرب!!!
بُعد عن المنصب في الجمعية
وقُرب في المصاحبة والتوجيه والتعاون!
والعجيب أنه يعترف بمخالفات الجمعية وتحزبها ودخولها في السياسة وتمسكهم في شيخ التكفيرين عبدالرحمن عبدالخالق
ثم يقول في أخر بيانه بأنه لامانع لديه من التعاون معهم!!!
يامن رجعت لمنهج السلف كما تدعي
هل التعاون مع المبتدعة من منهج السلف؟
والله اعتزال فيصل قزار مثل اعتزال حاي الحاي
اعتزال منصب فقط لا اعتزال فكر.
هذا حاي الحاي دروسه تقام في جمعية أحياء التراث ويثني على بعض مشايخه
وهذا فيصل قزار يقول الجمعية فيها مشايخ سلفيين ولا مانع من التعاون معهم.
لذلك يا إخواني لا يفرح بترك هؤلاء للجمعية لأنهم في حقيقة الأمر تركوا مناصبهم في الجمعية لا فكر الجمعية .
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[1] Slightly paraphrased and abridged. See: https://albader1.wordpress.com/ (post number 30)
Faisal al Jasim works under the banner of Ihya at-Turaath
Faisal al Jasim works under the banner of Ihya at-Turaath pic.twitter.com/SsxOnmMm
— Samir Debbazi (@sdebbazi) December 29, 2012
In The Name of Allaah, The Most Merciful The Bestower of Mercy
Shaikh Rabee Bin Haadi (may Allaah preserve him) said: We call to the methodology of the Salaf—to the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of the Messenger. We utilize them as proofs in our creed; in our acts of worship; in our stances; in our relationship with the rulers and the ruled and in our relationship with the groups and sects. As for others, they play games and tricks. By Allaah! You do not find them except that they play tricks and games with the passion (or inclinations) of the youth. [End of quote] http://www.sahab.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=114620
Therefore, the affair is not merely about the Violent Khawaarij due to the present Fitnah of ISIS; rather let us see Greenlane’s Admin and Goldie take clear stances against all those who either carry the ideas of the khawaarij, or shelter people who carry the ideology of the khawaarij, or praise people who propagate the ideology of the khawaarij, such as the organization Ihyaa Turaath- those who shelter some speakers who advocate demonstrations and removal of the Muslim Rulers; admirers of the Takfeeri Sayyid Qutb; admirers of the Ikhwaani Mubtadi Yusuf Al-Qaradaawi and the revolutionary Mubtadi Abdur-Rahmaan Abdul Khaaliq etc
Let us see Greenlane’s Admin and Goldie renounce the people of khurooj amongst Ihyaa Turaath. Let us see Goldie renounce the Takfeeri Muhammad Al-Maghraawi and those other deviants who advocate demonstrations in the Muslim lands, such as Yusuf Al-Qaradaawi and those admirers of Sayyid Qutb (the figurehead, guide and mentor of the contemporary Khawaarij terrorists).
Greenlane’s Admin shelters Goldie and Goldie Keeps the Company of the followers of the Takfeeri Al-Maghraawi [@ Masjid Sunnah (Cheethamhill Manchester)]
See following articles about Al-Maghraawi: Revelations on the Doctrines of al-Maghraawi [Salafipublications.com] Revelations on the Doctrines of al-Maghraawi : Part 1 Revelations on the Doctrines of al-Maghraawi : Part 2 Revelations on the Doctrines of al-Maghraawi : Part 3
Greenlane’s Admin Shelters Goldie and Goldie praises the misguided Ikhwaani revolutionary Al-Qaradaawi
Goldie stated about Al-Qaradaawi: ”From the contemporary scholars and he is a scholar, is the Shaikh Yusuf Al-Qaradaawi…”
It is well-known to the people of Sunnah- scholars, students and the common people-that Yusuf Al-Qaradaawi is an evil deviant, who calls to demonstrations and protests. Likewise, he has many other affairs of misguidance. [see articles at salafipublications.com: [Readings in Qaradawism Part 1: article Id:NDV160001] [Readings in Qaradawism Part 2: article Id: NDV160002] [Readings in Qaradawism Part 3: article Id: NDV 160003] [Readings in Qaradawism part 4: article Id: NDV 160004]
It is not surprising that Goldie (a man of bidah) admires Al-Qaradaawi (a figurehead of Ikhwaanism and Bidah); rather his admiration of Al-Qaradaawi further manifests another reality, and it is the fact that the hizbi organization Ihyaa Turaath (which is an affiliate of Goldie’s employers @Greenlane) are also admirers of the Ikhwaani Innovator Al-Qaradaawi. They (Ihyaa Turaath) stated: “We thank you for your sweet-smelling letter and we hope for an increase in communication between us regarding the treaty with the Jews that was published in the magazine Al-Muslimoon and the response of Shaykh Yoosuf al-Qaradaawee that was published in the magazine Al-Mujtama’ . So we request (that you) refer (back) to them…. “ Speaker: the magazine Source: Al-Furqaan Pages: 59, pg. 65 Date: 1995. [1]
This agreement between Goldie and Ihyaa Turaath in their admiration of an Ikhwaani Deviant reminds us of the hadeeth: Aisha (radiyallaahu-anhaa) said, I heard the Prophet (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) saying, ‘’Souls are like recruited troops; those who are of like qualities are inclined to each other, but those who have dissimilar qualities differ.’’ [Saheeh Bukhaari Vol 4. Hadeeth Number 3336. Darusallam]
Al-Haafidh Ibn Hajar (rahimahullaah) stated one of the meanings of this hadeeth in Fat-hul Baari that Al-Khattaabi (rahimahullaah) said: This may indicate to mean similarity in good and evil, righteousness or corruption– the good one amongst the people is inclined towards one similar to him, and the evil one is similarly inclined towards the one similar to him. Souls have an affinity with others in accordance with the nature in which they were created, good or evil. They will agree if their natures are similar, otherwise they will be at loggerheads… [See Fat-hul Baari for further details]
Greenlane’s Admin Co-operates with Adnaan Abdul Qaadir of Ihyaa Turaath and Adnaan is an Admirer of the Takfeeri Sayyid Qutb!
Adnaan Abdul-Qaadir (of Ihyaa Turaath) said:
“As for Sayyid Qutb, then indeed he was passionate about presenting the goals and basic principles of every soorah before beginning in it’s tafseer in his book Fee Thilaalil-Qur’aan?” Source: Mukhtasar min nathril-maasi wad-darari fee Turuqil-bahthi ‘an muqaasidis-Suwar Pages: 6-7 Date: 2004 [2]
NB: Adnaan Abdul-Qaadir visits Greenlane and Goldie translates his lectures.
Other speakers of Ihyaa Turaath upon the ideology of khurooj
Waa’il Al-Hasaawee
Waa’il Al-Hasaawee (another speaker of Ihyaa Turaath) calls for the removal of the Rulers; he said: “But the question that we do not find an answer to is regarding the reason for the weakness of the Arab and Islaamic peoples and their lack of ability to change their present situation on their own, and their helplessness to remove those rulers who are perched on their chests” Source: Al-Furqaan magazine (the magazine of Jam’iyyah Ihyaa’ at-Turaath) Number: 235, pg. 40 Date: 24/3/2003 [3]
Naadhim Sultaan
He said: “We say: it is wrong, O people of Tunisia and those who traverse upon their way! Don’t go to the American Embassy (to protest)! Go to these palaces that are in them the (Muslim) leaders and presidents” [4] [End of Quote]
Therefore, the affair is not merely about refuting ISIS and other violent kharijites; rather the affair is about taking a clear stance against all those whom the scholars have refuted and warned against due to being upon the ideology of the kharijites, such as Muhammad Al-Maghraawi- those who call to demonstrations and protects, such as the deviant Ikhwaani Innovator Yusuf Al-Qaradaawi; or those organizations (i.e. Ihyaa Turaath) that shelter speakers who call to demonstrations and khurooj against the rulers and those who call the Ummah to Sayyid Qutb etc
Shaikhul Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimahullaah) said:
Indeed, the khawaarij of old were called ‘Al-Harooriyyah’ because they started their bidah of rebellion against the Muslim rulers at a place called Haroora in Koofah. They were also called ‘Ahlu An-Nahrawaan’ (The people of Nahrawaan) because Ali (radiyallaahu-anhu) fought them at that place. They are divided into different groups: The Ibaadiyyah-followers of Abdullaah Bin Ibaad and the Al-Azaariqah-the followers of Naafi Bin Azraq and others. [For further details see: Sharh Hadeethu Jibreel of Shaikhul Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah: Page 319].
Likewise, amongst these groups are the ‘Khawaarij Qa-adiyyah’ and they are the most dangerous amongst the khawaarij. The Qa-adiyyah are those who do not go out in person to fight and cause corruption, rather they sit behind and convince the people to do so. Imaam Abu Daawud (rahimahullaah) reported in Masaa-il Ahmad [page: 271] from Abdullaah Ibn Muhammad As-Suhaib that he said: ‘The sitters amongst the khawaarij (i.e. the Qa-adiyyah–those who instigate the fighting but do not actually participate) are the filthiest of the khawaarij.
Therefore, the Maraakiz of Salafiyyah are not fooled by Greenlane’s Admin and Goldie. It is not enough for an organization or a masjid to distance itself from ISIS, Nusrah and others, yet it co-operates with Ihyaa Turaath-an organization that shelters speakers who call to Sayyid Qutb, Abdur-Rahmaan Abdul Khaaliq and other revolutionaries. Rather, Greenlane even allows Goldie to praise Al-Qaradaawi-an affiliate of the Deviant Muslim Brotherhood Sect of Egypt and a caller to protests against some of the Muslim Rulers.
See link about Abdur-Rahmaan Abdul Khaaliq: http://www.thenoblequran.com/sps/sp.cfm?secID=NDV&subsecID=NDV09&loadpage=displaysubsection.cfm
The Salafi students of Knowledge in the various Maraakiz of salafiyyah warn against all these deviants with clear evidences based on the clarifications of the scholars of Ahlus Sunnah. Therefore, do not be deceived by anyone who warns against ISIS, but at the same time he refuses to distance himself from other individuals, who carry Takfeeri ideas, or organizations that shelter speakers, who admire Sayyid Qutb, Al-Qaradaawi, Abdur-Rahmaan Abdul Khaaliq and others similar to them. So if Grenlane’s Admin and Goldie are truthful in their stance against all the khawarij and not only ISIS etc, then let them distance themselves from Ihyaa Turaath and their affiliates, and all other innovators. Imaam Ibn Rajab (rahimahullaah) said:
[ أما أهل البدع والضلالة ومن تشبه بالعلماء وليس منهم فيجوز بيان جهلهم وإظهار عيوبهم تحذيرا من الاقتداء بهم ]
”As for the people of innovation and misguidance and those who imitate the scholars, but are not from them, then it is permissible to clarify their ignorance and manifest their deficiencies, so as to warn (others) from following them.” [الفرق بين النصيحة والتعبير : page 36]
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References 1, 2, 3 & 4, see link:
http://www.salafitalk.net/st/printthread.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=5220
In The Name of Allaah, The Most Merciful, The Bestower of Mercy
Shaikh Uthaymeen refutes the deviations of Adnaan Ar’oor Al-Mubtadi
http://ia600507.us.archive.org/12/items/qawidadnanaroor/01-Uthaymeen.mp3
Shaikh Ahmad An-Najmi refutes the deviations of Adnaan Ar’oor Al-Mubtadi
Shaikh Fawzaan (may Allaah preserve him) unveils the deviations of Adnaan Ar’oor Al-Mubtadi
Shaikh Gudiyaan (rahimahullaah) refutes the deviations of Adnaan Ar’oor Al-Mubtadi
Shaikh Zayd Bin Haadi (rahimahullaah) refutes the deviations of Adnaan Ar’oor Al-Mubtadi
Shaikh Ubayd Al-Jaabiri (may Allaah preserve him)
Shaikh Muhammad Bin Haadi (may Allaah preserve him)
In The Name of Allaah, The Most Merciful, The Bestower of Mercy
Firstly: We remind Greenlane’s Admin (Allies of the deviants of Ihyaa Turaath, Al-Maghrib Institute etc): Whenever our scholars see the need to mention the names of harmful deviants, we will transmit their verdicts. It will not be abandoned merely based on the assumption that such action will make their followers more attached to them.
Al-Allaamah Saalih Al-Fawzaan (may Allaah preserve him):
When to mention names of harmful deviants
See Link
http://safeshare.tv/w/DyFhAcaTKJ
Shaikh Saaleh Al-Fawzaan [may Allaah preserve him] was asked about some of those students with a [ورع بارد – an inappropriate or unjustified ‘apprehensive fear’ (1)]- that when when they hear the sincere advisers- among the students or scholars- warning against bidah, the people of bidah and the paths that lead to bidah, and making mention of the reality of what they [i.e. people of bidah] are upon and then refuting them; likewise, [these advisers] would mention some of the names of [those being refuted]- even if they have passed away- due to the trial the people are subjected to through them; and this [warning] carried out for the purpose of defending the Religion, to unveil the deception of those who mix truth with falsehood and those who speak ill of [the religion] in the midst of the people and and thus spread the splitting and differing in the Ummah- they [i.e. those with this inappropriate or unjustified apprehensive fear] would claim that speaking against the innovators and mentioning some of their names is from the forbidden types of backbiting.
Answer: The principle related to this [affair] is about warning against mistakes and deviation, after identifying it as such. If the affair requires making known the name of an individual among the obstinate opponents so that beguilement does not occur through their [affair] – especially those individuals with deviated views or deviation in behavior and methodology, and they are well known among the people and the people have a good opinion of them- then there is no harm in mentioning them by their names and their methodology warned against.
The scholars carry out research in the science of Jarh Wat-Tadeel and then mention the narrators and the reproach stated against them. This is not [done] for the purpose of personal [criticism]; rather it is [done] for the purpose to giving advice to the Ummah in case they come across affairs from these individuals that are harmful to the Religion or lies against the Messenger [sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam].
Therefore, first and foremost, this principle is about warning against mistakes. However, the one who committed such mistake(s) is not to be mentioned if that would either lead to greater harm or if there is no benefit in mentioning him. However, if the affair requires that his name be made known for the purpose of warning the people against his methodology, then this is [considered] to be sincerity to Allaah, His Book, His Messenger, to the leaders of the Muslims and their common folk, especially if he [i.e. the one warned against] is active within the people and they have a good opinion of him, and acquire his books and tapes. Then there has to be clarification and the people must be warned, because [employing] silence will be harmful to the people. His affair has to be unveiled, but not for the purpose of defamation or following one’s desires [in that]; rather it has to be [done] for the purpose of sincerity to Allaah, His Book, His Messenger, the leaders of the Muslims and their common people. [2]
Al-Allaamah Ahmad Bin Yahyah An-Najmi (rahimahullaah)
Question: This question states: What is your view of the one who warns against bidah and innovators in general but does not hold that names are to be mentioned?
Answer: When something happened, the Prophet (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) used to say, ‘’what is wrong with a people (who did or say such and such)?!’’ This is correct; but is this said about the leaders of misguidance–those who call the people to affairs of misguidance and the people are put to trial through them? Is this said about them? No; these ones must be mentioned. They must be made known and they must be known, so that the people are cautious about them. As for us keeping quiet about them and saying, ‘’No, we do not mention their names- we neither say Sayyid Qutb nor Hasan al-Banna, neither such and such person nor such and such person”; then with respect to the one who utters this statement, for example: If we were to warn against the people of bidah, then who will be able to say that it is other than these people (i.e. differentiate them from others and that) these are the leaders of ahlul bidah. [slightly paraphrased] [3]
[1] NB: The word [ورع ] translated as ‘apprehensive fear’ was taken from one of Ustaadh Amjad Rafiq’s [hafidhahullaah] articles.
[2] Source: Al-Ajwibah Al Mufeedah; page 162 Question number: 66 Slightly paraphrased]
[3] Listen to audio here:
Finally: We remind Greenlane’s Admin (Allies of the deviants of Ihyaa Turaath, Al-Maghrib Institute and other personalities who carry erroneous views etc): Whenever our scholars see the need to mention the names of harmful deviants, we will transmit their verdicts. It will not be abandoned merely based on the assumption that such action will make their followers more attached to them.
