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Keeping a distance from a Mubtadi even if he has knowledge of fiqh and hadeeth-[Shaikh Fawzaan(may Allaah preserve him)] clarifies

This questioner says:

 

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

If a student of knowledge utters innovation and calls to it, and he is one with Fiqh and (knowledge of) Hadeeth; does his speech of innovation necessitate an invalidation of his knowledge and his (knowledge) of hadeeth, and not to (benefit from) him unrestrictedly?

 

Answer:

Yes, he is not to be trusted; the one who is an Innovator is neither to be trusted nor his knowledge, nor (to have) a lackadaisical (stance) towards him. That is because if you (have) a lackadaisical (stance) towards him, the student will be influenced by his Shaikh-he will be influenced by his teacher. Therefore, it is obligatory to be distanced from the people of innovation, and the Salaf (pious predecessors) used to forbid (others) from sitting with the innovators, visiting and going to them; so that their evil is not spread to the one who sits with them and mixes with them.

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Advise to Those Who [Don’t know/Those Who Refuse To know] Who Abu Usaamah Is: [A simple verdict from the Mufti of the South of Saudi Arabia]

Question to Al-Allaamah Ahmad An-Najmi (rahimahullaah):

Question: “O Shaykh Ahmad we have with us in America a man called Abu Usaamah who is considered to be from the Du’aat, he aids and supports Abul-Hasan and he calls some noble Salafi brothers ghulaat (extremists), muqallidah (blind followers), and muhqiboon (the people whose religion is the religion of the one they blindly follow), so what is the legislated position from this man and how should we deal with him?

The noble Scholar (rahimahullaah) answered:

موقفكم منه كموقفكم من أهل البدعة , أعرض عنه و اتركه

“Your position with him is the same as your position with the People of Innovation. Turn away from him and abandon him.”

http://www.salafitalk.com/threads/1216-A-Response-to-the-Deceit-of-Abu-Usaamah-Khalifah-and-His-Lying-Tongue

Greenlane’s Admin: Inform that transmitter of half-truths and confustion in the Mas’alah of Imtihaan!

The Crime of Tamyee’ upon the Salafee Manhaj: Part 9 – Shaykh ul-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah on Making Imtihaan of the People To Know Their Condition

See Link:

http://www.salafipublications.com/sps/sp.cfm/frm/sad/nbq/downloads/pdf/nbq/images/downloads/pdf/sp.cfm?subsecID=BDH05&articleID=BDH050015&articlePages=1

Also see this detailed article by by Al-Allaamah Rabee Bin Haadi (may Allaah preserve him)

http://www.sahab.net/forums/?showtopic=130930

[3] The Reality of Faisal Al-Jaasim’s Disassociation from Ihyaa Turaath!

Shaikh Badr Ibn Muhammad Al-Badr Al-Anzy stated:

A Risaalah (treatise) was sent to me by some of the brothers concerning the affair of Faizal Al-Jaasim’s disassociation (from) the group Ihyaa Turaath Al-Islaami. The statement he issued concerning his disassociation is in reality not a disassociation; rather it is ‘keeping a distance‘ (in one direction) and ‘Coming Close’ (from another direction)-being distanced from ascription to Ihyaa Turaath, but coming close (to them) with regards to companionship, giving instructions and co-operating (with them)!

And (it is) amazing that he (Faisal) acknowledges the Mukhaalafaat of Ihyaa Turaath; the hizbiyyah (they are upon); their entry into politics and adherence to their Takfeeri Shaikh, Abdur- Rahmaan Abdul Khaaliq; but then he (Faisal) stated at the end of his statement that –in his view-there is no hindrance in cooperating with them!!!  Your return to the Salafi Manhaj is confirmed as you claim. Is it from the Salafi Manhaj to co-operate with innovators?

By Allaah your disassociation (from Ihyaa Turaath) is similar to the disassociation of حاي الحاي- it is only a disassociation by way of ascription and not (by way) of thought. Here is حاي الحاي – his lessons are held at Ihyaa Turaath and he praises some of its Shaikhs, and this فيصل قزار says that there are Salafi Shaikhs within (Ihyaa Turaath) and there is no hindrance in co-operating with them. For this reason- my brothers- do not rejoice (due) these (people’s) abandonment of the Jam-iyah (i.e. Ihyaa Turaath) because in reality they abandon their ascriptions to the Jam-iyah but not the thought of the Jam-iyah. [1]

مدونة مقالات

للشيخ: بدر بن محمد البدر العنزي

بشأن اعتزال فيصل قزار الجاسم جماعة أحياء التراث الإسلامي

الحمد لله رب العالمين
وبعد:
أُرسلت لي رسالة من بعض الأخوة
بشأن اعتزال فيصل قزار الجاسم
جماعة أحياء التراث الإسلامي
وإذا بالبيان الذي أصدره في اعتزاله ليس باعتزال في حقيقة الأمر
بل هو بُعد وقُرب!!!
بُعد عن المنصب في الجمعية
وقُرب في المصاحبة والتوجيه والتعاون!
والعجيب أنه يعترف بمخالفات الجمعية وتحزبها ودخولها في السياسة وتمسكهم في شيخ التكفيرين عبدالرحمن عبدالخالق
ثم يقول في أخر بيانه بأنه لامانع لديه من التعاون معهم!!!
يامن رجعت لمنهج السلف كما تدعي
هل التعاون مع المبتدعة من منهج السلف؟
والله اعتزال فيصل قزار مثل اعتزال حاي الحاي
اعتزال منصب فقط لا اعتزال فكر.
هذا حاي الحاي دروسه تقام في جمعية أحياء التراث ويثني على بعض مشايخه
وهذا فيصل قزار يقول الجمعية فيها مشايخ سلفيين ولا مانع من التعاون معهم.
لذلك يا إخواني لا يفرح بترك هؤلاء للجمعية لأنهم في حقيقة الأمر تركوا مناصبهم في الجمعية لا فكر الجمعية .

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[1] Slightly paraphrased and abridged. See: https://albader1.wordpress.com/ (post number 30)

Sh. Mohammad bin Haady حفظه الله تعالى: Refutations are a Part of Seeking Knowledge!

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

It is an extremely sad state of affairs when those who ascribe themselves to knowledge present to the people deceptively chosen generalised statements of the scholars to establish their wayward methodologies; one such deception is the claim that refutations should not be given attention and a person should busy himself with knowledge.

Shaikh Mohammad bin Haady clarifies that refutations are indeed an aspect of seeking knowledge, otherwise how is it expected of an individual to seek knowledge if he is unaware of where to seek it from?! What meaning would the statement of Ibn Seereen hold with regards to seeking knowledge if refutations were not to be given any attention? “Indeed this knowledge is religion, so look to whom you take your religion from.”

Those who follow their desires will present generalised statements of the scholars stating that a person should not busy himself with refutations etc and should instead focus upon knowledge, attempting to utilise such statements to virtually nullify the science of jarh wa ta’deel, such that it becomes a criminal activity and “extremism” (Ghulluw) with them to ask about the state of an individual (and likely more so if the question is related to the likes of Al-Halaby, Al-Ma’riby and others that they wish to defend and would rather remain silent upon, highly conveniently).

In reality such statements of the scholars do not “criminalise” spreading refutations, or asking about individuals in order to protect yourself and be aware of whom to take knowledge from, as Shaikh Mohammad bin Haady explains in the following video.

[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcQv8ey1hGo?rel=0]

Greenlane’s Admin: ‘The Lasting Legacy’ Necessitates distancing oneself from all revolutionaries, admirers of khaarijites and their affiliates!

In The Name of Allaah, The Most Merciful The Bestower of Mercy

Shaikh Rabee Bin Haadi (may Allaah preserve him) said: We call to the methodology of the Salaf—to the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of the Messenger.  We utilize them as proofs in our creed; in our acts of worship; in our stances; in our relationship with the rulers and the ruled and in our relationship with the groups and sects.  As for others, they play games and tricks.  By Allaah! You do not find them except that they play tricks and games with the passion (or inclinations) of the youth. [End of quote] http://www.sahab.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=114620

Therefore, the affair is not merely about the Violent Khawaarij due to the present Fitnah of ISIS; rather let us see Greenlane’s Admin and Goldie take clear stances against all those who either carry the ideas of the khawaarij, or shelter people who carry the ideology of the khawaarij, or praise people who propagate the ideology of the khawaarij, such as the organization Ihyaa Turaath- those who shelter some speakers who advocate demonstrations and removal of the Muslim Rulers; admirers of the Takfeeri Sayyid Qutb; admirers of the Ikhwaani Mubtadi Yusuf Al-Qaradaawi and the revolutionary Mubtadi Abdur-Rahmaan  Abdul Khaaliq etc

Let us see Greenlane’s Admin and Goldie renounce the people of khurooj amongst Ihyaa Turaath. Let us see Goldie renounce the Takfeeri Muhammad Al-Maghraawi and those other deviants who advocate demonstrations in the Muslim lands, such as Yusuf Al-Qaradaawi and those admirers of Sayyid Qutb (the figurehead, guide and mentor of the contemporary Khawaarij terrorists).

Greenlane’s Admin shelters Goldie and Goldie Keeps the Company of the followers of the Takfeeri Al-Maghraawi [@ Masjid Sunnah (Cheethamhill Manchester)] 

See following articles about Al-Maghraawi: Revelations on the Doctrines of al-Maghraawi [Salafipublications.com]  Revelations on the Doctrines of al-Maghraawi : Part 1   Revelations on the Doctrines of al-Maghraawi : Part 2  Revelations on the Doctrines of al-Maghraawi : Part 3

Greenlane’s Admin Shelters Goldie and Goldie praises the misguided Ikhwaani revolutionary Al-Qaradaawi

Goldie stated about Al-Qaradaawi: ”From the contemporary scholars and he is a scholar, is the Shaikh Yusuf Al-Qaradaawi…”

It is well-known to the people of Sunnah- scholars, students and the common people-that Yusuf Al-Qaradaawi is an evil deviant, who calls to demonstrations and protests. Likewise, he has many other affairs of misguidance. [see articles at salafipublications.com: [Readings in Qaradawism Part 1: article Id:NDV160001]  [Readings in Qaradawism Part 2: article Id: NDV160002] [Readings in Qaradawism Part 3: article Id: NDV 160003] [Readings in Qaradawism part 4: article Id: NDV 160004]

It is not surprising that Goldie (a man of bidah) admires Al-Qaradaawi (a figurehead of Ikhwaanism and Bidah); rather his admiration of Al-Qaradaawi further manifests another reality, and it is the fact that the hizbi organization Ihyaa Turaath (which is an affiliate of Goldie’s employers @Greenlane) are also admirers of the Ikhwaani Innovator Al-Qaradaawi. They (Ihyaa Turaath) stated: “We thank you for your sweet-smelling letter and we hope for an increase in communication between us regarding the treaty with the Jews that was published in the magazine Al-Muslimoon and the response of Shaykh Yoosuf al-Qaradaawee that was published in the magazine Al-Mujtama’ . So we request (that you) refer (back) to them….  “ Speaker:  the magazine Source: Al-Furqaan Pages: 59, pg. 65 Date: 1995. [1]

This agreement between Goldie and Ihyaa Turaath in their admiration of an Ikhwaani Deviant reminds us of the hadeeth: Aisha (radiyallaahu-anhaa) said, I heard the Prophet (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) saying, ‘’Souls are like recruited troops; those who are of like qualities are inclined to each other, but those who have dissimilar qualities differ.’’ [Saheeh Bukhaari Vol 4. Hadeeth Number 3336. Darusallam]

Al-Haafidh Ibn Hajar (rahimahullaah) stated one of the meanings of this hadeeth in Fat-hul Baari that Al-Khattaabi (rahimahullaah) said: This may indicate to mean similarity in good and evil, righteousness or corruption– the good one amongst the people  is inclined towards one similar to him, and the evil one is similarly inclined towards the one similar to him.  Souls have an affinity with others in accordance with the nature in which they were created, good or evil. They will agree if their natures are similar, otherwise they will be at loggerheads…  [See Fat-hul Baari for further details]

 

Greenlane’s Admin Co-operates with Adnaan Abdul Qaadir of Ihyaa Turaath and Adnaan is an Admirer of the Takfeeri Sayyid Qutb!

Adnaan Abdul-Qaadir (of Ihyaa Turaath) said:

“As for Sayyid Qutb, then indeed he was passionate about presenting the goals and basic principles of every soorah before beginning in it’s tafseer in his book Fee Thilaalil-Qur’aan?” Source: Mukhtasar min nathril-maasi wad-darari fee Turuqil-bahthi ‘an muqaasidis-Suwar  Pages: 6-7 Date: 2004 [2]

NB: Adnaan Abdul-Qaadir visits Greenlane and Goldie translates his lectures.

 

Other speakers of Ihyaa Turaath upon the ideology of khurooj

Waa’il Al-Hasaawee

Waa’il Al-Hasaawee (another speaker of Ihyaa Turaath) calls for the removal of the Rulers; he said: “But the question that we do not find an answer to is regarding the reason for the weakness of the Arab and Islaamic peoples and their lack of ability to change their present situation on their own, and their helplessness to remove those rulers who are perched on their chests” Source: Al-Furqaan magazine (the magazine of Jam’iyyah Ihyaa’ at-Turaath) Number: 235, pg. 40 Date: 24/3/2003 [3]

Naadhim Sultaan

He said: “We say: it is wrong, O people of Tunisia and those who traverse upon their way! Don’t go to the American Embassy (to protest)! Go to these palaces that are in them the (Muslim) leaders and presidents” [4] [End of Quote]

Therefore, the  affair is not merely about refuting ISIS and other violent kharijites; rather the affair is about taking a clear stance against all those whom the scholars have refuted and warned against due to being upon the ideology of the kharijites, such as Muhammad Al-Maghraawi- those who call to demonstrations and protects, such as the deviant Ikhwaani Innovator Yusuf Al-Qaradaawi; or those organizations (i.e. Ihyaa Turaath) that shelter speakers who call to demonstrations and khurooj against the rulers and those who call the Ummah to Sayyid Qutb etc

Shaikhul Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimahullaah) said:

Indeed, the khawaarij of old were called ‘Al-Harooriyyah’ because they started their bidah of rebellion against the Muslim rulers at a place called Haroora in Koofah. They were also called ‘Ahlu An-Nahrawaan’ (The people of Nahrawaan) because Ali (radiyallaahu-anhu) fought them at that place. They are divided into different groups: The Ibaadiyyah-followers of Abdullaah Bin Ibaad and the Al-Azaariqah-the followers of Naafi Bin Azraq and others. [For further details see: Sharh Hadeethu Jibreel of Shaikhul Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah: Page 319].

Likewise, amongst these groups are the ‘Khawaarij Qa-adiyyah’ and they are the most dangerous amongst the khawaarij. The Qa-adiyyah are those who do not go out in person to fight and cause corruption, rather they sit behind and convince the people to do so. Imaam Abu Daawud (rahimahullaah) reported in Masaa-il Ahmad [page: 271] from Abdullaah Ibn Muhammad As-Suhaib that he said: ‘The sitters amongst the khawaarij (i.e. the Qa-adiyyah–those who instigate the fighting but do not actually participate) are the filthiest of the khawaarij.

Therefore, the Maraakiz of Salafiyyah are not fooled by Greenlane’s Admin and Goldie.  It is not enough for an organization or a masjid to distance itself from ISIS, Nusrah and others, yet it co-operates with Ihyaa Turaath-an organization that shelters speakers who call to Sayyid Qutb, Abdur-Rahmaan Abdul Khaaliq and other revolutionaries.  Rather, Greenlane even allows Goldie to praise Al-Qaradaawi-an affiliate of the Deviant Muslim Brotherhood Sect of Egypt and a caller to protests against some of the Muslim Rulers.

See link about Abdur-Rahmaan Abdul Khaaliq: http://www.thenoblequran.com/sps/sp.cfm?secID=NDV&subsecID=NDV09&loadpage=displaysubsection.cfm

The Salafi students of Knowledge in the various Maraakiz of salafiyyah warn against all these deviants with clear evidences based on the clarifications of the scholars of Ahlus Sunnah. Therefore, do not be deceived by anyone who warns against ISIS, but at the same time he refuses to distance himself from other individuals, who carry Takfeeri ideas, or organizations that shelter speakers, who admire Sayyid Qutb, Al-Qaradaawi, Abdur-Rahmaan Abdul Khaaliq and others similar to them. So if Grenlane’s Admin and Goldie are truthful in their stance against all the khawarij and not only ISIS etc, then let them distance themselves from Ihyaa Turaath and their affiliates, and all other innovators. Imaam Ibn Rajab (rahimahullaah) said:

[  أما أهل البدع والضلالة ومن تشبه بالعلماء وليس منهم فيجوز بيان جهلهم وإظهار عيوبهم تحذيرا من الاقتداء بهم ]

”As for the people of innovation and misguidance and those who imitate the scholars, but are not from them, then it is permissible to clarify their ignorance and manifest their deficiencies, so as to warn (others) from following them.” [الفرق بين النصيحة والتعبير : page 36]

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References 1, 2, 3 & 4, see link:

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/printthread.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=5220