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Greenlane’s Admin: Shaikh Uthaymeen and six other scholars unveil the deviations of Adnaan Ar’oor; why do you hide truth & aggrandize status of those who defend him?!

In The Name of Allaah, The Most Merciful, The Bestower of Mercy

Shaikh Uthaymeen refutes the deviations of Adnaan Ar’oor Al-Mubtadi

 http://ia600507.us.archive.org/12/items/qawidadnanaroor/01-Uthaymeen.mp3

 

 

 

Shaikh Ahmad An-Najmi refutes the deviations of Adnaan Ar’oor Al-Mubtadi

 

 

 

 

Shaikh Fawzaan (may Allaah preserve him) unveils the deviations of Adnaan Ar’oor Al-Mubtadi

 

 

 

 

 

Shaikh Gudiyaan (rahimahullaah) refutes the deviations of Adnaan Ar’oor Al-Mubtadi

 

 

 

 

Shaikh Zayd Bin Haadi (rahimahullaah) refutes the deviations of Adnaan Ar’oor Al-Mubtadi

 

 

 

 

 

Shaikh Ubayd Al-Jaabiri (may Allaah preserve him)

Shaikh Muhammad Bin Haadi (may Allaah preserve him)

Greenlane’s Admin-Why do you hide truth and aggrandize the status of those who utter this statement…..!

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The statement

Warn against the mistake and do not mention the name of the one who committed the mistake

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Ali Ibn Shaqeeq (rahimahullaah) said:

I heard Abdullaah Ibnul Mubaarak (rahimahullaah) saying in the midst of the people: ”Leave the narrations of Amr Bin Thaabit, for indeed he used to revile the Salaf.” [1] [End of quote]

 

Shaikh Rabee (may Allaah preserve him) said:

By Allaah! They (i.e. innovators) are mentioned by their characteristics and by their names if the need arises. If such and such takes up the (position) of leading and guiding the Ummah and the youth, and dragging them to falsehood, then their names are mentioned. If the need arises to mention his name, then his name is mentioned. [2] [End of quote]

Greenlane’s Admin: So here we have Imaam Ibnul Mubaarak (rahimahullaah) warning against Amr Bin Thaabit in an open gathering and mentioning his name! These are our Salaf, so where is the evidence of the one who says that it is obligatory to mention the deviated views but not the names of the deviated one. Indeed, whenever our Ulama see the need and mention names of deviants, we will transmit their verdicts.

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[1] Source: Reported by Imaam Muslim in Muqaddimah Saheeh Muslim] [Chapter: الْكَشْفِ عَنْ مَعَايِبِ رُوَاةِ الْحَدِيثِ وَنَقَلَةِ الأَخْبَارِ وَقَوْلِ الأَئِمَّةِ فِى ذَلِكَ]

[2] [source: [14/277-278] [مجموع كتب ورسائل وفتاوى الشيخ ربيع ]

 

Chapter:الْكَشْفِ عَنْ مَعَايِبِ رُوَاةِ الْحَدِيثِ وَنَقَلَةِ الأَخْبَارِ وَقَوْلِ الأَئِمَّةِ فِى ذَلِكَ

[a] Greenlane’s Admin: A mention of the Names of harmful deviants must not be abandoned merely based on the assumption that their followers will become more attached to them

In The Name of Allaah, The Most Merciful, The Bestower of Mercy

Firstly: We remind Greenlane’s Admin (Allies of the deviants of Ihyaa Turaath, Al-Maghrib Institute etc): Whenever our scholars see the need to mention the names of harmful deviants, we will transmit their verdicts. It will not be abandoned merely based on the assumption that such action will make their followers more attached to them.

 

Al-Allaamah Saalih Al-Fawzaan (may Allaah preserve him):

When to mention names of harmful deviants

See Link

http://safeshare.tv/w/DyFhAcaTKJ

Shaikh Saaleh Al-Fawzaan [may Allaah preserve him] was asked about some of those students with a [ورع بارد – an inappropriate or unjustified ‘apprehensive fear’ (1)]- that when when they hear the sincere advisers- among the students or scholars- warning against bidah, the people of bidah and the paths that lead to bidah, and making mention of the reality of what they [i.e. people of bidah] are upon and then refuting them; likewise, [these advisers] would mention some of the names of [those being refuted]- even if they have passed away- due to the trial the people are subjected to through them; and this [warning] carried out for the purpose of defending the Religion, to unveil the deception of those who mix truth with falsehood and those who speak ill of [the religion] in the midst of the people and and thus spread the splitting and differing in the Ummah- they [i.e. those with this inappropriate or unjustified apprehensive fear] would claim that speaking against the innovators and mentioning some of their names is from the forbidden types of backbiting.

Answer: The principle related to this [affair] is about warning against mistakes and deviation, after identifying it as such. If the affair requires making known the name of an individual among the obstinate opponents so that beguilement does not occur through their [affair] – especially those individuals with deviated views or deviation in behavior and methodology, and they are well known among the people and the people have a good opinion of them- then there is no harm in mentioning them by their names and their methodology warned against.

The scholars carry out research in the science of Jarh Wat-Tadeel and then mention the narrators and the reproach stated against them. This is not [done] for the purpose of personal [criticism]; rather it is [done] for the purpose to giving advice to the Ummah in case they come across affairs from these individuals that are harmful to the Religion or lies against the Messenger [sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam].

Therefore, first and foremost, this principle is about warning against mistakes. However, the one who committed such mistake(s) is not to be mentioned if that would either lead to greater harm or if there is no benefit in mentioning him. However, if the affair requires that his name be made known for the purpose of warning the people against his methodology, then this is [considered] to be sincerity to Allaah, His Book, His Messenger, to the leaders of the Muslims and their common folk, especially if he [i.e. the one warned against] is active within the people and they have a good opinion of him, and acquire his books and tapes. Then there has to be clarification and the people must be warned, because [employing] silence will be harmful to the people. His affair has to be unveiled, but not for the purpose of defamation or following one’s desires [in that]; rather it has to be [done] for the purpose of sincerity to Allaah, His Book, His Messenger, the leaders of the Muslims and their common people. [2]

 

Al-Allaamah Ahmad Bin Yahyah An-Najmi (rahimahullaah)

Question: This question states: What is your view of the one who warns against bidah and innovators in general but does not hold that names are to be mentioned?

Answer: When something happened, the Prophet (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) used to say, ‘’what is wrong with a people (who did or say such and such)?!’’ This is correct; but is this said about the leaders of misguidance–those who call the people to affairs of misguidance and the people are put to trial through them? Is this said about them? No; these ones must be mentioned. They must be made known and they must be known, so that the people are cautious about them. As for us keeping quiet about them and saying, ‘’No, we do not mention their names- we neither say Sayyid Qutb nor Hasan al-Banna, neither such and such person nor such and such person”; then with respect to the one who utters this statement, for example: If we were to warn against the people of bidah, then who will be able to say that it is other than these people (i.e. differentiate them from others and that) these are the leaders of ahlul bidah. [slightly paraphrased] [3]


[1] NB: The word [ورع  ] translated as ‘apprehensive fear’ was taken from one of Ustaadh Amjad Rafiq’s [hafidhahullaah] articles.

[2] Source: Al-Ajwibah Al Mufeedah; page 162 Question number: 66 Slightly paraphrased]

[3] Listen to audio here:

Finally: We remind Greenlane’s Admin (Allies of the deviants of Ihyaa Turaath, Al-Maghrib Institute and other personalities who carry erroneous views etc): Whenever our scholars see the need to mention the names of harmful deviants, we will transmit their verdicts. It will not be abandoned merely based on the assumption that such action will make their followers more attached to them.

Greenlane’s Admin –This affair is a differing in Manhaj and not Fiqh; Unity can only be based on sound creed and the one who knows is a proof against the one who does not know!

In The Name of Allaah, The Most Merciful, The Bestower of Mercy

Al-Allaamah Muqbil Bin Haadee (rahimahullaah) said:

Al-Khilaaf Fiqhiy: It is when the evidence can carry this (meaning) or that (meaning), such as the Hadeeth:”When one of you wakes up from his sleep, he must not put his hand in a utensil till he has washed it three times, for he does not know where his hand was.” The scholars have differed in this (affair); amongst them are those who say that the water becomes impure and amongst them are those who say that it is forbidden (to put one’s hand in the water) but (the water) does not become impure and this affair is a legislated act of worship; and amongst them are those who say that it is Makrooh (disliked to put the one’s hand in the water  but not forbidden), because he (i.e. the person) is upon certainty that his hand is in a state of purity.  So the likes of this (affair) is Ikhtilaaf fiqhiy and similar to it (also is whether) the Basmallaah is to be uttered loudly (during the prayer).

Al-Khilaaf Manhajiy:  As for Al-khilaaf Manhajiy, it is a problematic disease such as the methodology of Ikhwaan Al-Mufliseen; for their Manhaj is entry into elections, houses of parliaments and party Multiplicity.  This is considered to be Ikhtilaaf Manhajiy because it is in opposition to the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of the Messenger (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wa-alaa-aalihi-wasallam)…… [End of quote…See: Ghaaratul Ash-ritah: page: 40-41: Vol 1]

Pay close attention to this affair so that you are not deceived- in your religious affairs- by the deceitful false claimants to Salafiyyah. The Maraakiz of Salafiyyah do not have a working relationship with any organization or group that mixes Sunnah and bidah. However, Greenlane’s Admin co-operates with organizations and groups that mix Sunnah and Bidah, such as Ihyaa Turaath, Al-Maghrib Institute. Greenlane’s Admin seeks to hide its reality from some of those unsuspecting Mashaayikh who are considered to be upon the Sunnah-and only Allaah knows our real state of affairs- whilst maintaining their ties with some of the obstinate people of bidah. This is a Manhaj shared between Ihyaa Turaath and Greenlane’s Admin.

Shaikh Ubaid (may Allaah preserve him) said: Ihyaa Turaath mixes the religion with politics or bidah with Sunnah. The Shaikh also says: Their call is a mixture. They call to those who are considered to be from ahlul bidah. http://www.sahab.net/forums/?showtopic=117024

 

Ihyaa Turaath

See here: http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=5220 – all about the Aqeedah and Manhaj of Ihyaa Turaath-The associates of Greenlane’s Admin.

After acquainting yourself with Ihyaa Turaath’s deviations in Aqeedah and Manhaj (in the above link) then ask yourself the following questions:

[1] Is it possible for any claimant to Salafiyyah to co-operate with Ihyaa Turaath after being well aware of their clear affairs of bidah and misguidance in Aqeedah and Manhaj?!

[2] Is it possible for any claimant to Salafiyyah to keep quiet about the clear and grave deviations of Ihyaa Turaath [in Aqeedah and Manhaj] after being well aware of them?!

[3] Is it possible for any claimant to Salafi to show enmity towards those who unveil the calamities of Ihyaa Turaath?!

[4] Is it possible for any claimant to Salafiyyah to deliberately ignore the deviations of Ihyaa Turaath [in Aqeedah and Manhaj] and openly declares it working relationship with them?!

[5] Is it possible for any claimant to Salafiyyah to unite with Ihyaa Turaath after being well aware of their clear deviations in Aqeedah and Manhaj?!

 

Al-Allaamah Saaleh al-Fawzaan (may Allaah preserve him) stated:

As long as the Aqeedah (creed) is shaky and blemished, the Muslims cannot be united. It is not possible to unite the one upon Bidah with the one upon the Sunnah, ABADAN.  It is not possible to unite the person of corrupt Aqeedah (creed) with a person of sound aqeedah even though they share the same name (i.e. they are both called Muslims). The Muslims have to be united upon Tawheed, upon the correct Aqeedah, upon the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allaah (Muhammad-sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam). The Muslims have to come together; they have to unite and follow that which emanates from that bond and unity, as long as this does not depart from obedience to Allaah and His Messenger (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam).  And due to that, the Messenger (sallal-laahu alayhi wasallam) said:  ”Allaah is pleased for you with three things: ”that you worship Him (alone) and not to associate anything with Him; and that you (all) hold unto the Rope of Allaah and not to be divided; and that you give sincere advise to the one placed in charge over your affairs (i.e. the Muslim Ruler).”

As for the one who calls to the unity of the Muslims even though they differ in their Aqeedah, indeed, this is impossible. The one who wants to unite the Muslims even though they are upon divergent beliefs, even though they are upon shaky beliefs, this is inconceivable. (It is) like the one who attempts to bring together water and fire or a beast and a fish. This can never be possible because a beast lives on land and a fish lives in the sea…

[End of quote: Source: Excerpt from a lecture delivered by Sheikh Saaleh al Fawzaan at Masjid At-Tawheed in Taa-if. Title of lecture: At Tahdeer Minal Furqati Wal Ikhtilaaf]

Therefore, do not be deceived by Greenlane’s Declaration of a conference in which there some of those Mashaayikh who are considered to be upon the Sunnah-and only Allaah knows our real state of affairs-; rather a sensible person should look to the reality and not merely what is apparent. Clinging to the Sunnah does not allow the Sunni to form alliances with some of those considered to be from Ahlus Sunnah-and only Allaah knows our real state of affairs- whilst maintaining ties with the obstinate deviants of Ihyaa Turaath, al-Maghrib Institute and others. This is why when Shaikh Muhammad Bin Haadi (may Allaah preserve him) was asked about attendance at Islamic conferences (or gatherings) of knowledge that are under the supervision of the Jam-iyyaat (i.e. Islamic organizations of illegal partisanship) but also attended by Mashaayikh who are considered to be upon the Sunnah….So the Shaikh said that the brothers are aware of his speech concerning all these Jam-iyyaat. These Jam-iyyaat seek to promote and establish their goals through some of the Mashaa-yikh, so Shaikh said that he does not see that one should go to them.  Some of the Mashaayikh are unaware of the pursuit of these Jam-iyyaat through them; so one should not go to them. http://www.sahab.net/forums/?showtopic=130647

Shaikh Ubaid Al-Jaabiri (may Allaah preserve him said:”The one who knows of a mistake and it is clear to him, then it is not permissible for him to blindly follow a scholar to whom an affair is hidden. And indeed you already heard yesterday that the scholars are not infallible in their Ijtihaadaat. Therefore, it is not permissible to adopt them (i.e. the mistakes of the scholars) as a methodology (to follow).”  http://salaficentre.com/2013/08/2-an-eye-opener-for-the-seeker-of-truth-alallaamah-ubaid-bin-abdillaah-al-jaabiri-answers/

To be continued…In-Shaa-Allaah

 

 

Greenlane’s Masjid Admin Co-operates with an organization that is from the deviated sect of Ikhwaan Al-Muslimeen!

Shaikh Ubaid (may Allaah preserve him) responded to the one who considers some of those affiliated to ihyaa turaath as people of virtue, knowledge and sound religion….Listen to audio here:

 

 

Points from Shaikh Ubiad’s Response:

*The utterer of this statement is overwhelmed by the proofs…..

*This statement is one of his falsehoods…

*The principle with Ahlul Ilm (i.e. the scholars of Ahlus Sunnah) is that the one who allies with ahlul bidah- neither bringing them to account nor aiding those who confront them, then he is from them even if he-in the apparent-is one who shows righteousness and acts upon some of the sunnah. This does not free him from falling into bidah….

*We have spoken against Ihyaa Turaath in many places…..

*Ihyaa Turaath is among (or within) the Ikhwaan Al-Muslimeen sect…..

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Therefore, the Salafi is not diverted from the fact that Grenlane seeks to mix haqq with baatil by inviting those considered to be upon the Sunnah, whilst maintaining its ties with ahlul bidah. This is the manhaj of Greenlane’s Admin, whereas salafiyyah does not accommodate ahlul bidah. See articles…

The Basis of the Differing Between Greenlane’s admin and SP

http://salaficentre.com/2014/12/part-1-2-reminder-salafi-publications-and-greenlane-masjid-admin-what-is-the-basis-of-the-differing/

Conferences organized by hizbiyyoon and attended by Mashaayikh who are considered to be upon the Sunnah

http://salaficentre.com/2014/12/shaikh-muhammad-bin-haadi-conferences-organized-by-hizbiyyoon-and-attended-by-those-mashaayikh-considered-to-be-upon-the-sunnah/

 

[B] Some Destructive False Principles and Calamities of Abdul Maalik Ar-Ramadaani-An ally of Brixton and Luton, and Al-Halabi (Al-Murji Al-Mubtadi)

بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ

[Abdul Maalik Ar-Ramadaani says that the affairs of Jarh Wat-Tadeel are based on Ijtihaad] [1]

 

Question to Al-Allaamah Rabee Bin Haadi Al-Madkhali (may Allaah preserve him)

Are the affairs of Jarh Wat-Tadeel based on Ijtihaad? And how do we refute the one who says, ‘’I am not obliged to (take/accept) the speech of such and such a Shaikh?!

 

Answer:

A group amongst the schemers against the Salafi Methodology and those who wear a false garment of Salafiyyah seek to place in the affair of Jarh Wat-Tadeel (the false principle): ”We rectify but we do not disparage;” (and the false principle): ”We want a broad and extensive methodology that will accommodate all the Ummah”; (and the false principle): ‘’We rectify but we do not destroy;” Meaning: Neither evil nor bidah is repelled; rather all the Ummah are accommodated in a board and extensive methodology to the extent that even the Raafidah (shia) are accommodated.  So these people begin to make false accusations against the science of Jarh Wat-Tadeel and against those (i.e. the scholars) who establish it.  Some of these false accusers have gone as far as saying that there is no proof in the Qur’aan and the Sunnah to establish the science of Jarh Wat-Tadeel!

Indeed, the Qur’aan is filled with the proofs of Jarh Wat-Tadeel—the people of pharaoh have been refuted and disparaged; the people of Prophet Nooh have been refuted and disparaged; the people of Prophet Hud have been refuted and disparaged; the people of Prophet Saaleh have been refuted and disparaged; the Quraish have been refuted and disparaged and Abu Lahab has been refuted and disparaged.  The Sunnah and the methodology of the Salaf are filled with Jarh Wat-Tadeel and it is a weapon against the people of innovation.  These people promoting such false principles want to break this ‘Jarh Wat-Tadeel Weapon’ into pieces, and they want to deprive the Salafis of this ‘Jarh Wat-Tadeel Weapon’ which is traced back to the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allaah (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam).

So a person comes along and wages war against the science of Jarh Wat-Tadeel; then a second person comes along and wages war against the science of Jarh Wat-Tadeel; then a third person comes along and wages war against the science of Jarh Wat-Tadeel; then a fourth one comes along and wages war against the science of Jarh Wat-Tadeel……..then a tenth person comes along and wages war against the science of Jarh Wat-Tadeel and they are all followed by crowds!! Therefore be warned against these people, for they wear a false gown of Salafiyyah in order to split the Salafis through these false principles and precepts.

A person commits murder and was seen by two trustworthy witnesses; then these two witnesses are summoned in the presence of the ruler who applies the Islamic rulings; so what will he judge with?  He should judge by the law of Islam and if not then he has opposed the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah Allaah’s Messenger (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam).    Allaah (The Most High) said:

وَأَشۡہِدُواْ ذَوَىۡ عَدۡلٍ۬ مِّنكُمۡ

”And take for witness two just persons from among you (Muslims).” [65:2]

The evidence for giving witnesses and the evidences for Jarh Wat-Tadeel are one and the same thing.  As for the untrustworthy person, then his narration is not accepted. Likewise, the liar- the deceiver- whose speech cannot be determined for its correctness, then his testimony is not accepted. Neither his criticism nor commendation of a person is accepted.  However, if he is a scholar who is precise and skilful, and he says about a person: ”Such and such a person is a liar”; then it is obligatory upon the people to accept his speech.  The Salaf followed this methodology, (such as their saying): ”such and such is a liar”; ”such and such has a bad memory”; ”such and such is an innovator”; ”such and such is a murji”; ”such and such is a khaariji”; ”such and such is a mutazili” etc   These statements have been made by Imaam Ahmad, Imaam Ibn Ma’een, Imaam Ibn Al-Madeenee, Imaam Bukhaaree etc.  This the path followed by the Salaf; and why is that the case? That is because Allaah commanded us to accept the narration of the trustworthy narrators.  Allaah (The Most High) said:

يَـٰٓأَيُّہَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوٓاْ إِن جَآءَكُمۡ فَاسِقُۢ بِنَبَإٍ۬ فَتَبَيَّنُوٓاْ

”O you who believe! If a rebellious evil person comes to you with a news, verify it.” [49:6]

Clarification and verification is to be sought when a rebellious evil person narrates; the narration of a rebellious evil person is not declared a lie straight away because it may be correct; but it is not accepted until it is verified.

As for the narration of a trustworthy person–as long as he is trustworthy and precise in what he narrates from the Messenger of Allaah (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam), then it is obligatory to accept his narration.  The Books of the Sunnah are filled with the narrations of those truthful narrators—a truthful person reports from another truthful person with a chain of transmission going back to the Messenger of Allaah (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam). However, these people who are seeking to attack the science of Jarh Wat-Tadeel with their false principles want to abolish the sound principles upon which our Religion is established.

Many of the Ahaadeeth of the Messenger of Allaah (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam), the transmissions from the companions (radiyallaahu-anhum) and the transmissions from the Imaams of the Sunnah were transmitted from one trustworthy person to another trustworthy person… and it obligatory to accept them, due to the saying of Allaah (The Most High): [وَأَشۡہِدُواْ ذَوَىۡ عَدۡلٍ۬ مِّنكُمۡ ]—”And take for witness two just persons from among you (Muslims).”

And with regards to transmission of information, then the information transmitted by one person is sufficient; because the Messenger (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) used to send one person to Chosroes (i.e. the Emperor of Persia) to call him to Islaam and establish the proofs against him.

And he (sallal-laahu-alayhi-sallam) sent one person to Caesar, King of Rome to call him to Islaam and establish the proofs against him.  The people used to enter Islaam through the message of this one trustworthy-truthful person sent by the Prophet (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam).  And if they rejected Islaam and refused to follow the Messenger of Allaah (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) based on the information transmitted by this one trustworthy-truthful person, he (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) prepared an army against them. The Messenger (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) prepared an army for the battle of Tabuk against the Romans based on the fact that they rejected the call to Islaam which was communicated to them by one person.

He (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) sent individuals to Bahrain, Oman and Yemen and their narrations were accepted; so how about in this present time of ours when there are ten or fifty Salafi (scholars) who are in agreement regarding a particular affair; however their narrations are rejected; and those who reject them, say: ‘’There has to be a consensus of all the scholars.’’  And from the false principles of these people is that they say: ‘’we neither accept criticism against a person nor a praise for him even if many of the contemporary scholars say that such a person is an innovator.’’ 

Therefore be warned against these people, because they make a claim to Salafiyyah, whilst seeking to destroy the Salafi Methodology—its principles and foundations.  How many false precepts do they have, such as their saying: ‘’I am not obliged to (take/accept) the speech of such and such a Shaikh?!’’  You find a scholar quoting and refuting the affairs of misguidance found in the Book of such and such a person, in such and such page; yet you find these people saying: ‘’I am not obliged to (take/accept) the speech of such and such a Shaikh?!’’

This statement of theirs is a principle by way of which they seek to shun and reject truth.  It is a false principle by way of which they seek to reject the sound principles of Jarh Wat-Tadeel.  Therefore, learn the sound principles of Jarh Wat-Tadeel and look to the methodology of the Salaf; and leave alone those who misguide. They bring turmoil upon the true religion of Allaah and upon the Methodology of the Salaf and its followers. [2]

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[1] See page 26 in the Pdf on this link:  http://www.sahab.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=127155

[2] Source: Slightly Paraphrased from a lecture of the Shaikh delivered on Yawm Al-Khaamis 28 Shawaal 1431

محاضرة مشتركة بين الشيخ ربيع والشيخ علي بن ناصر الفقيهي حفظهما الله تعالى يوم الخميس 28 شوال 1431 هـ

http://www.sahab.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=120593

[A] Some Destructive False Principles and Calamities of Abdul Maalik Ar-Ramadaani-An ally of Brixton and Luton, and Al-Halabi (Al-Murji Al-Mubtadi)

بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ

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Shaikh Ubaid (may Allaah preserve him) said: ”Abdul Maalik has become confounded, disorderly and erratic.”

Shaikh Rabee (may Allaah preserve him) said: ”Abdul Maalik is with Al-Halabi and Al-Maribi.”[a]

Shaikh Abdullaah al-Bukhaari (may Allaah preserve him) said: ”Abdul Maalik is sick and deviated.” [b]

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False Principle Number One

Making it a condition that there has to be Ijmaa (consensus) before Tabdee is accepted

Abdul Maalik Ar-Ramadaani (may Allaah guide him) stated about the Tabdee against Eed Shareefee (may Allaah guide him): [العلماء ما أجمعوا على تبديعه حتي يقال هذا الكلام ] ”The scholars do not hold a consensus on the Tabdee against him (i.e. they do not hold a consensus that he is an innovator) in order for you to speak with this statement (i.e. saying that he is an innovator).”’ [End of quote] [1]

There is no basis for this view of Abdul Maalik. The scholars of Ahlus Sunnah have not made it a condition in the science of Jarh Wat-Tadeel that there has to be consensus before a person is declared an innovator; rather a single aalim is enough. Al-Haafidh Ibn Salaah (rahimahullaaj) said:  ”They (i.e. scholars) differed as to whether Jarh and Tadeel is affirmed by way of the statement of one person or there that has to be a second person? Amongst them are those who say: It is not established (or affirmed) except by way of two people just as (the case) in Jarh Wat-Tadeel in giving witnesses (or testimonies). And from them are those to say:- and this is the correct statement chosen by Al-Haafidh AbuBakr Al-Khateeb and other than him-It is established (or affirmed) by the statement of one person because numbers is not a condition for the acceptance of a khabar. It is not a condition for disparaging or commending its narrator as opposed to giving witness (or testimony).” End of quote [2]

So where is the so called Ijmaa claimed by Abdul Maalik (may Allaah guide him) in this affair?! Consider the statement of Shaikh Ubaid (may Allaah preserve him) when he stated: ”Abdul Maalik has become confounded, disorderly and erratic.” The Shaikh also said: ”At present he is a follower of Ali Halabi and he (i.e. Abdul Maalik) is not to be referred to.” [3] Rather Abdul Maalik (may Allaah guide him) stated: [أنا من المتأثرين بعلي حسن االحلبي ومشهور حسن آل سلمان] ”I am from those influenced by Ali Hasan Al-Halabi and Mash-hoor Hasan Aala Salmaan.” [4] He also says that he is in agreement with Ali Al-Halabi in what Al-Halabi (Al-Murji Al-Mubtadi) has written in his depraved book titled Manhajus Salafi [5]

To be continued….In-Shaa-Allaah

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References:

[a] http://masjidfurqan.co.uk/2014/11/22/1-the-haal-of-abdul-malik-ar-ramadaani/

[b]http://masjidfurqan.co.uk/2014/11/23/3-the-haal-of-abdul-malik-ar-ramadaani-shaikh-abdullaah-al-bukhaari-clarifies/

[1] See 9 in the Pdf on this link: http://www.sahab.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=127155

[2] Muqaddimah Ibn Salaah. Page: 98-99]

[3] http://masjidfurqan.co.uk/2014/11/22/1-the-haal-of-abdul-malik-ar-ramadaani/

[4] http://masjidfurqan.co.uk/2014/11/22/2-the-haal-of-abdul-malik-ar-ramadaani/

[5] http://masjidfurqan.co.uk/2014/11/23/3-the-haal-of-abdul-malik-ar-ramadaani-shaikh-abdullaah-al-bukhaari-clarifies/

See other rebuttals of this false principle propagated

by Abdul-Maalik, Al-Halabi and Al-Maribi and their obstinate followers

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=11548

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=7515

http://salaficentre.com/2014/11/the-correct-stance-towards-the-differing-of-the-scholars-concerning-jarh-and-tadeel-shaikh-ubaid-may-allaah-preserve-him/

http://www.abukhadeejah.com/shaikh-rabee-establishment-of-proof-in-declaring-a-person-to-be-an-innovator/

http://www.abukhadeejah.com/al-jarh-wat-tadeel-and-the-corrupt-principles-of-abu-usamah-khalifah-part-3/

http://www.abukhadeejah.com/al-jarh-wat-tadeel-and-the-corrupt-principles-of-abu-usamah-khalifah-part-2/

http://www.abukhadeejah.com/al-jarh-wat-tadeel-and-the-corrupt-principles-of-abu-usamah-khalifah-part-4/

http://www.abukhadeejah.com/al-jarh-wat-tadeel-and-the-corrupt-principles-of-abu-usamah-khalifah-part-1/

How to deal with a Salafi when he errs…..

Assalaamu alaykum warahmatullaah;
Shaikh Muhammad Baazmool (may Allaah preserve him) delivered a very beneficial lecture titled: ‘How to deal with a Salafi when he errs…” Download Arabic Audio from this link: www.sahab.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=144483  Note: In-Shaa-Allaah there is a lot of benefit in this lecture if you listen to all of it and not just some of it. May Allaah grant us beneficial knowledge. Aameen.

Summarized benefits: Shaikh Ubaid says: Saalim At-Taweel is a Miskeen; Misguided and lost one!

Listen to audio here:

 

Shaikh Ubaid (may Allaah preserve him) comments on Saalim At-Taweel’s statement that At-Tahazzub (illegal partisanship) is present in the Nufoos of all the people and even Asabiyyah (zealous partisanship) was present within the Sahaabah….

Response:

Shaikh Ubaid stated:

*He has known the utterer of this statement for nearly 21 years and he is from Kuwait. …

*He used to be with the (salafiyyoon) and then he complied with what deviated him…

*If he wished he would have mentioned his name…

The statement  that At-tahazzub (illegal partisanship) is present in all the people is incorrect because Ahlus Sunnah are the Hizbullaah (The party of Allaah)-they do not come together except based on the Book of Allaah, the Sunnah of the Messenger (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) and the understanding of the Salaf; rather At-Tahazzub (illegal partisanship) is found with the innovators. For instance you find that sometimes a man is one who intermingles—sometimes he goes with Ikhwaan al-Muslimeen; sometimes with the Tableeghees and sometimes with other deviated groups regardless of the differing in the religion (i.e. blameworthy differing in Aqeedah and Manhaj)….

The sahaabah are not Ahzaab [i.e. divergent parties or groups]; rather they are Al-Muhaajiroon (i.e. the believers who migrated from Makkah and joined the Prophet (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) in Madeenah] and Al-Ansaar (i.e. those believers in Madeenah who welcomed the Immigrants]…..

This statement which was uttered by this man-a Miskeen; misguided and lost one- is evidence against the people of illegal partisanship and the illegal partisans are Mubtadia. They do not come together except based on what they desire…..

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Excuse us for this summary due to lack of time. Perhaps brothers can work on the full translation and share it. Jazaakumullaahu khayran. May Allaah (The Most High) guide Saalim At-Taweel and his companions (Ruhayli, Halabi etc) or protect us from their falsehood. Aameen.

http://www.sahab.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=148402

Explanation of ‘Mandhoomah Manhajul Haqq’ of Imaam Sadi (rahimahullaah)

Audio for memorization

[Explanation- 2 Audios -by Shaikh Abdur-Razzaaq Al-Badr (hafidhahullaah)

Book in PDF

Manhajul_Haqq

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Reminder

Benefit from this beautiful explanation of Mandhoomah Manhajul Haqq, but do not be isolated from the regular lessons of the Tullaab in the local Salafi Masaajid and Maraakiz.